Albo to the rescue

[spacesailor]

This staunch Labor supporter. 

Will not vote for a separatists government. 

That " voice " has cost a lot of " New Australian " votes .

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[facthunter]

It was  a pre election pledge to do it.  Little (to be) Proud (of) poo pooed it instantly then confusion and "IF you DON"T UNDERSTAND IT, don't vote for it usual stuff..  It's easy to put the scarers up in the remote areas. Dutton will be a disaster. In any other place than Queensland HE wouldn't hold his seat. LNP is a PARTY there and a Coalition everywhere else. The agreement between them has secret details as to what the terms are  but the deputy will be from the NATS.  HE reckoned HIS "BORDER FORCE out ranked everyone including STATE POLICE. He gets inspiration from Trump. He will be  a copy cat  DICK tator..  Nev

[old man emu]

The "Cost of Living Crisis" thing, while I don't deny it's being a fact, has become a football in the political games within many countries' borders. Those who we call The Opposition in governments are blaming the mob in Government for fumbling in the goal mouth. The truth is that it is not within the ability of any government to effectively control the marketplace where the crisi is playing out. The lawmakers don't even have the ability to control interest rates. This applies not only to Australia, but everywhere.

 

Look at the factors causing the crisis. The world is still recovering from the effects of COVID. International maritime transport is being stalled by environmental effect as in the drying of the Panama Canal, or by militant action around the Suez Canal and Persian Gulf. Then we have the various wars that prevent trade. 

 

Dutton and Co can try to blame Albo and his mob for what is happening in order to sway the voting public into replacing the government, but from Day 1 Dutton will be faced with the exact same conditions and the same hopelessness to fix it. Keep your eye on what happens in the USA over the next three months. Trump's first term was cursed by COVID. His second will be marked by a collapse of the world economy, and he can't be wholly blamed for that.

 

I'm not being pessimistic. I hope for my kids' sake I am wrong, but if you see storm clouds on the horizon, and the wind is blowing from their direction, one should make sure one has a raincoat handy.

[spacesailor]

And , I was toying with the idea of spending the kids inheritance.  

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 PS. : I caught 'AI' changing "  toying to trying " .

[Jerry_Atrick]

5 hours ago, old man emu said:

The "Cost of Living Crisis" thing, while I don't deny it's being a fact, has become a football in the political games within many countries' borders. Those who we call The Opposition in governments are blaming the mob in Government for fumbling in the goal mouth. The truth is that it is not within the ability of any government to effectively control the marketplace where the crisi is playing out. The lawmakers don't even have the ability to control interest rates. This applies not only to Australia, but everywhere.

I largely agree with this, and one of the disadvantages is that democracies with frequent elections don't lend themselves to governments performing long term planning of strcutural changes to the economy - e.g. short term poain for long term gain - as they are only judged about what happens in society, more or less within x. months of an election. Regardless of  climate change, renewables in the long term will deliver huge cost reductions over fossil fuels.. It may be a 20 orr 30 or 50 year return on investment.. .But tell the electorate that you will have to fogoe a few more cents in the dollar to make it work,, and you're voted out. But the benefits for our kids, grandkids, and so on, would be enormous. Sadly, we don't think like that.

 

And lawmakers can set interest rates - al l it takes is a change in the law. Central banks weren't always independent, and if Trump has his way, the Fed won't be for much longer.

 

5 hours ago, old man emu said:

Dutton and Co can try to blame Albo and his mob for what is happening in order to sway the voting public into replacing the government, but from Day 1 Dutton will be faced with the exact same conditions and the same hopelessness to fix it. Keep your eye on what happens in the USA over the next three months. Trump's first term was cursed by COVID. His second will be marked by a collapse of the world economy, and he can't be wholly blamed for that.

 

I'm not being pessimistic. I hope for my kids' sake I am wrong, but if you see storm clouds on the horizon, and the wind is blowing from their direction, one should make sure one has a raincoat handy.

I am not quite as hawkish as you are, and I think it will be segments rather than the whole economy that will collapse..but throw AI into a largely service based economy, and yess, there are many headwinds gathering.

 

Almost every country that has had elections this year has seen a turnover - the electorate eeither blame the incumbents, or they perceive them not to be doing enough to help. The trick for incuments in these times to to show the population that if it was the other guyy, they would be worse off. Of course, the other guy doesn't have to offer any policies at the moment, but incumbebnts (i.e. Albo and Harris) have a track record of the opposition, and can show how poorly they handled the good times, that them handling the bad times was a virtual certainty to end in many more tears than now. What they needed to do was tap into how they were better handling it than the opposition ever could. Going off on cultural and identity politics when people are worse off, regardless of how that comes about, is not going to win votes.

 

Althogh I am sure Labor has handled the economy better than the LNP would have, Albo, IMHO dopesn't have it in him to make the case, and is trying distraction. The QLD state election should be a very big wakehup call to the ALP.. As it is probably too late to change their leadership, they had better start changing their tactics, or Aus will have Dutton as PM.. And he is no statesman, either.

[old man emu]

8 hours ago, Jerry_Atrick said:

But the benefits for our kids, grandkids, and so on, would be enormous. Sadly, we don't think like that.

 

That's where the Asians have it over us. Their cultures see the benefit of working for the benefit of their descendants. 

 

This week the ALP did show a bit of the backbone that we would like to see. In the UN, Australia turned awau from the USA and its rulers, the Isrealis, and voted for Palistinian soveriegnty. That's something the lap dog LNP would not do. The Yanks will probably make something of the way Australia voted, but probably not much, as they probably think they have us under their thumb. 

 

It's about time the Auusie larriknism shone through and we told the Yanks what drongos they are. We should tell them that we are sick of their pushing their debased culture onto us. They have never done anything to really benefit Australia. They simply see Australia as a base for their military operations. 

[nomadpete]

Sadly, all governments (& hopeful gov'ts) have trained the voter to believe that 'only they' can fix the problems of the day. That is how they get elected.

 

Subsequently, when the winning party (or pres) fails to improve the things that are outside their control, they get voted out.

 

Hence the regular  irrational turnover of government  & consequent lack of long term  stability of policies.

 

 

Edited Friday at 10:30 PM by nomadpete
It wasn't me. I didn't do it.

[nomadpete]

18 minutes ago, old man emu said:

That's where the Asians have it over us. Their cultures see the benefit of working for the benefit of their descendants.

Long term vision is something we really lack.

 

Also, many places do gain from the long term consistency provided by a unimpeachable dictator. But that advantage wears thin when compared with the negative side of dictatorship.

[facthunter]

Profit's big and now are  pushed by self interested greed motivated barbarians.  Nev