Fuel type for new car

[facthunter]

That might encourage using $#!t Tyres EV's also  wear tyres more due to their higher weights. Nev

[Old Koreelah]

1 hour ago, old man emu said:

A possibility, but how do you determine an equitable tax on that? My first thought was on average mileage a tyre is expected to be useful for, but then you have to factor in things like wear rates. A tyre for a small passenger car is likely to last for more kms than the tyre for a truck, and a motorcycle tyre wears fastest. (I think)

Exactly- so just tax rubber tyres by weight. The more rubber a vehicle uses, the more load it puts on our roads. Bicycles could finally pay for their road use, but at a rate commensurate with their impact.

[Jerry_Atrick]

As I understand it, the heavier the vehicle, the faster the rate of damage done to the road (exceptional weather events excepted). So, it does make sense - the more tyre wear the probable more damage to the roads. Of course, for farm or mining bound vehicles, this would be slightly unfair.

 

When you think about it, the mottorist is subsidising the non-motorists by all that fuel duty going into consolidated revenue. This creates an incentive for the government to delay society progressing to more ecologically sustainable vehicles as they have a headache - both financially and electorially - in terms of plugging a consolidated budget hole. If they reduce the fuel taxes to meet the bidget for road maintenance and development; and increase consolidated revenue taxes fo consolidated revenue items, it makes running ICE cars cheaper and further delays progressing to more ecologically sustainable vehicles - or god forbit - better public transport. Sort of damed if you do and damned if you don't.

 

In the UK, the national government were "outed" some time ago for directing and subsidising councils for putting in traffic "calming" measures, that did nothing for safety (actually made it worse) but introduced congestion. The reason was because for every litlre of petrol that went up in smoke with a car going nowhere, meant more overall  consumption and more overall revenue for Inland Revenue (ATO equivalent). It never quite got the traction of a backlash, though.

[spacesailor]

My brother Always bought two sets of tyres , his reasoning was leaving the tyres to ' age ' made the rubber harder , thus,  less wear , than a soft rubber tyre .

SO ! . I have two vintage tyres that must be like steel , even thro they are " rag cross-ply " .

spacesailor

[facthunter]

IF they are old they are illegal to fit  and use even though you haven't had any use from them. Stiff Bikkies, but it's a safety matter.  Nev

[Jerry_Atrick]

15 minutes ago, facthunter said:

Stiff Bikkies,

If old tyres are used on Motorbikes, they can lead to stiff bikies...

[onetrack]

If they are that old, the rubber has lost its flexibility, and they will crack and big chunks of rubber will fall off the casing as soon as you put them under some hard work.

 

Your brother must have originally bought locally-made Hardie tyres. The Hardie tyres were absolute crap - the rubber was so soft, everyone recommended when you bought a set of Hardies, to throw them up in the loft of the shed for at least two years, to give them a chance to harden up, to produce a reasonable level of wear.

[spacesailor]

That's was the logic but he has Never worn a tyre out .

To me it's just more ' bureaucratic ' Lunacy ' .

How many people ' have ' looked at their tyre date when buying new tyres . 

It must be OK to sell old tyres to the gullible public. Rather than dumping ' new ' old stock .

Anyone here used " rally tyres ", hard as rock , would last forever , EXCEPT  .

illegal. 

spacesailor

[facthunter]

There's not a lot of tyres held in stock these days. Some sizes are hard to get  and storage costs money. . You're mad if you run hard tyres. They're gripless in the wet..  .When it first rains after a dry spell.  Tyres are cheap today. In the mid 50's a tyre for a Chev Cost 8 quid. A weeks wages. Nev

Edited October 21, 2023 by facthunter

[spacesailor]

Same bro , was pulled up for ' winding back ' his speedo .

14 mile he had done in the 12 months for wof inspection. 

7 mile to the inspection station,  logged by them , then another 7 home plus. 7 mile to return for

That annual inspection .14 miles on the clock .

BUT ! , 12 CARS TO CHOOSE FROM . LoL

spacesailor

[facthunter]

Go and live at Curtin Springs. Not many Bureaucrats there.   Nev

[spacesailor]

And that ' weight ' tax , a 3 ton ( fully loaded ) full size 4x4 with fat tyre's,  is ' Less ' psi ' on the tar , than a 2 ton EV with higher pressure , lower contact area tyre's. 

That's why we lower that tyre pressure on the beach .

Same 3 ton weight on ' tar ' and ' sand ' , but " floats like a butterfly " .

spacesailor

 

Edited October 26, 2023 by spacesailor
Missed word

[facthunter]

Years ago I was at Blacksmiths beach and a shiny new Toyota (The latest good thing then) just bogged itself to the running boards and a rusty Honda Postie bike just idles past with someone with a fishing rod over their back, nonchalantly doing it easily.  Nev

[spacesailor]

Too high ' tyre pressure  ' for that sand .

OR

like Tasmania's western beachquicksand . It will suck your car under so fast , you will be lucky to exit that car .

The ranger hut, has a collection of photographs,  showing those trapped,  being pulled-apart,

during the rescue attempts. 

Been there , done that ! .

spacesailor

[facthunter]

I think the tide gets those, Spacey. At Blacksmith's, He didn't think to let the tyres down and just churned the sand till it dug itself in.  Vehicles that have been on beaches won't last long.  Even the dry salt at Lake Gairdner ruins a vehicle that's been there a few times. Collects in the chassis and doors as dust and then later water gets in there with it. Nev

Edited October 28, 2023 by facthunter

[spacesailor]

My ' Jackaroo ' was stripped & cleaned meticulously after all the sand runs , Including, 

'SIMPSON DESERT , WHICH yielded the most recovered sand of all .

I would love to get the video of the Jackaroo ' dancing ' on the " skid patch " at Eastern-Creek .

spacesailor