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1 hour ago, nomadpete said:

Do any forumites know first hand of any gut biome transplant recipients?

 

Ie, shit transplants?

Without sounding like a smartarse, but every baby that has been breast fed has received its first gut bacteria inoculation. Not from the milk, but from the tit.

 

I don't know if coprophagy (shit eating) is something that would become popular in humans, but rodents such as rabbit and guinea pigs do it to maintain their gut bacteria. 

 

Once again it is believed that a modern Western diet containing too much processed food is detrimental to the gut biome. It would appear that changing to a diet with as few factory produced components is the answer to a healthy gut biome. To put it bluntly, eat a though it's 1899.

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No Litespeed, I don't know anyone who has had a gut biome transplant. It is apparently rarely done, and only as a last resort, when someone extremely sick, doesn't respond to two different types of antibiotics courses.

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So far, there has been a lot of experimentation and far too little real research. The process is now controlled and not done in a disgusting or unpleasant way.

 

But I don't know anyone who has undergone the procedure.

 

There are indications that gut biome diversity can affect many things, even brain functions.

 

I guess I'll have to wait for a proper double blind study.

 

It is relevant to the thread because all the extra chemicals in processed food will undoubtably have some effect on gut bacteria. But nobody has looked at that to see if it has anything to do with modern day health.

 

 

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There are probiotics available at the supermarket,

 

Yakult is a Japanese sweetened probiotic milk beverage fermented with the bacteria strain Lacticaseibacillus casei Shirota. It is sold by Yakult Honsha, based in Tokyo. It is distributed through convenience stores and supermarkets in single-serving containers of 65 mL or 100 mL, often in single-row packs of five or ten.

 

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             The thing that kills off the good bacteria  is antibiotics. After a  course of  antibiotics you need to restore  the good bacteria. When you swallow many probiotics there's a risk of the stomach acidity  reducing their effectiveness. Slow dissolving capsules aid that process. Read up on it from a trusted site. You will not be well without your good gut bugs.   Nev

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Some of that stuff is not cheap. I went to the chemist to get a packet of probiotics and a packet of iron tablets, $140 when I got to the checkout. It's not so much when you relate it to a daily cost but just a bit of a surprise when you initially see the price after being used to subsidised medicines . Once the stomach gets out of whack it takes a a while to get it running smoothly again; endoscope #3 in two or three weeks time should shed some light on it.

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The Genus Lactobacillus  bacteria whose main function is to convert sugars to lactic acid. These bacteria do a lot of good for the host organism in return for food. There are other bacteria which also do good things for the host, like breaking down   proteins or making vitamins. While taking things like Yakult and yoghurt keeps the population of Lactobacillus at a good level, we also need to ingest all the other bacterial types as well as fungi. That is why the mix in a gut biome should contain a wide range of microorganisms/

 

Until some manufacturer comes up with something commercial in the way that Yakult is, current research suggests that the avoidance of processed foodstuffs and a reliance on fresh food is the way to a health gut microbiota. 

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Good grass doesn't mean the sheep will just turn up.to eat it. .Probiotics as already noted are NOT cheap. They also have expiry dates applicable.  Maybe things like spirits damage the gut microbes but Broad spectrum antibiotics is the worst by far.  Nev

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