CORRUPTION IN AUSTRALIA

[old man emu]

How about truth in journalism to hobble Murdoch?

 

I am reading a story about the Australian Light Horse in WWI. There was a reference to Keith Murdoch, comparing him the Charles Bean, the appointed war historian. The refrence simply said that Murdoch was not interested in reporting the actions, but was seeking power by sidling up to the Prime Minister and Ministers.

[facthunter]

Rent seekers . Nothing's changed. Nev

[Jerry_Atrick]

Well, well, well.. Not to be outdone, the NT has got ito the act.

 

This fella dumbs it down a bit, but if this is even 1/2 true, forget Trump.. At least he is honest about his corruption.

 

Scum floats to the top, I guess.. but we all pay for it.

 

 

When I did a couple of weeks in Abu Dhabi, at least their govenment made ure fuel was free to the locals.

 

I guess I know what they mean by fossil fuel subsidies.

 

 

Edited November 22 by Jerry_Atrick

[nomadpete]

So.

Tell me.

What can we do about this?

[facthunter]

You wouldn't talk to them IF they didn't have Oil under them. Bush said it was "OUR" OIL and He's a born again reformed druggy so it must be correct. It's a GOD thing. Oils Ain't OILS.  The sooner we don't use so much of them the better.   Nev

[pmccarthy]

Those blokes sooking about Alan Jones should try travelling in an 80-man mine cage every day when you are 17 years old. How does that grab you baby? Get tough or go home.

[willedoo]

I hope nobody had baked beans for breakfast.

[Jerry_Atrick]

47 minutes ago, pmccarthy said:

Those blokes sooking about Alan Jones should try travelling in an 80-man mine cage every day when you are 17 years old. How does that grab you baby? Get tough or go home.

So, sexual abuse is tolerable or even OK especially when allegedly committed by a person with disproportionate power?

 

 

Edited December 4 by Jerry_Atrick

[spacesailor]

IS it 'abuse ',  if a staving person sells their body for it organs .

Or for sex .

Sex for sale predates the Romans .  

Isn't " slavery " abuse.  Including working for subsistence wages. 

How can Australia have laws ! . That were legal when the act was perpetrated. 

( overseas under age child prostitution ( or did it get thrown out ).  

spacesailor

[facthunter]

Get back on your medication..  OR hire a translator. I have NO B idea what you are talking about and I'm not Robinson Crusoe there, I would think. .Nev

[pmccarthy]

I had years of communal showers in the boys hostel then decades of the same in mining. Have seen or experienced all sorts of bullshit but no one I ever heard of was harmed by it. I can’t believe these sooks are taken seriously.

[old man emu]

14 minutes ago, pmccarthy said:

I can’t believe these sooks are taken seriously.

Once again the question arises, "Why was there no early complaint subsequent to the alleged offence?" Methinks it takes two to tango, or at least get up onto the dance floor.

[facthunter]

Because the  "System" was stacked against you and still is. People just put up with it as they had no option. MOB rule really. Psicko's indulging themselves at other's expense. THAT doesn't make a MAN out of you. It often makes another Psicko. Abusers have been abused themselves.  Nev

[old man emu]

1 hour ago, facthunter said:

Because the  "System" was stacked against you and still is.

So I wouldn't hear a murmur out of you if I gave you a swift kick in the bum? 

 

I know that was a trivial comment, but it beggars belief that a person who believes they have been done wrong should wait for years before complaining. I remember back in the Dark Ages of police investigating allegations of sexual assault, one choice piece of evidence in support of the allegation was "early complaint". That means the alleged victim told someone within a short time of the alleged incident. That's one of the reasons I was wary of the Brittany Higgins matter - lack of early complaint.

[pmccarthy]

Of all the crap things that happen to a person in their life, someone touching you on the tossle through your shorts would have to be number seventy-five thousand. If you can't smile and move on, the problem is you.

 

It is barely different for women - a touch on the tittie or grab on the pussy may be assault, but as we have seen in the USA, it is a considered a very minor one by the highest in the land and should not waste the time of the court system.

 

All falls under the heading of WOKE which fortunately has had its day.

[onetrack]

Peter, if it was your daughter regularly being grabbed on the pussy, would you still regard it as a minor offence, not worth following up? Sexual predators keep up their personal attacks, it's not usually just a one-off grab.

Constant unwanted sexual advances can be very soul-destroying to many people who didn't ask for or insinuate they'd welcome sexual advances.

[Marty_d]

2 hours ago, old man emu said:

So I wouldn't hear a murmur out of you if I gave you a swift kick in the bum? 

 

I know that was a trivial comment, but it beggars belief that a person who believes they have been done wrong should wait for years before complaining. I remember back in the Dark Ages of police investigating allegations of sexual assault, one choice piece of evidence in support of the allegation was "early complaint". That means the alleged victim told someone within a short time of the alleged incident. That's one of the reasons I was wary of the Brittany Higgins matter - lack of early complaint.

I think that evidence is at odds with reality.

Apparently the majority of victims don't tell anyone within a short time of the incident.

I'm not a psychologist but have read that the reasons for this may include feelings of shame, self doubt, misplaced guilt (did I encourage this), fear, etc.

[pmccarthy]

Yes I have four daughters and six grand daughters so it is important to me. But they all have to learn to deal with oafs and simpletons and to find out what actually matters and what doesn't. I am struggling to find an example to illustrate what I have been trying to say. Perhaps this?

Rank the following in seriousness from one (serious) to five (not very serious). 

• punched out your front teeth
• knocked you off your bike and broke your leg
• got you pissed and left you in the bush for half a day
• punched you hard on both shoulders every day until you couldn't carry your schoolbag.
• touched you once through your trousers.

See what I mean? All these things happened to me or my friends at school or afterward (except the touching one as far as I know). I could add a dozen more. Just put it into perspective. Lots of bad shit happens. Usually no-one is arrested or charged for any of it. That is how the world is and always will be. The sooner young people figure that out, the better their life will be.

 

For girls, sooner or later a boyfriend will try to put his hand up her skirt. He will not have a written permission in advance. If she handles it well, they will both have learned something and he will have become a bit smarter. Or she could report him to the police, perhaps a few years later, if he turns out to be someone famous.

[facthunter]

Some disturbing contributions there.  Because it happens a lot doesn't make it right..   IT RUINS peoples lives and it's NOT in any way their fault.. It's rarely addressed appropriately. Nev

[spacesailor]

I did post " under age persons " .

As there were both male & female prostitutes plying for business in those Asian countries .

Then on the news, there was a law to make those Australians who did pay, (while on holiday ), for a professional  sexologist . Are now criminals. 

spacesailor

[Marty_d]

What's a professional sexologist?

[Jerry_Atrick]

 

 

I am led to believe is a sexologist..

 

This is how far I go back.. she used to be on 3XY radio in Melbourne.

Edited December 5 by Jerry_Atrick

[pmccarthy]

The Society of Australian Sexologists Ltd represents health and allied health professionals working in the area of sex therapy, sexuality education, sexual health and sexology. We are Australia’s leading peak body for the regulation and accreditation of psychosexual therapists and sexuality educators.

As a professional association representing sexologists, our vision is the positive integration and enhancement of sexuality into people's lives. To achieve this vision we support and enhance the practice of professionals working in the area of sexology through educational opportunities and partnerships, influence public policy and promote sexology and sexual rights for the benefit of our members and the communities they serve, and develop and maintain the professional ethics and standards of psychosexual therapists and sexuality educators.

[facthunter]

IF it's done better there will be more of it and nothing will get done. . Nev