red750 Posted November 20 Posted November 20 43 minutes ago, old man emu said: When I started this thread, I did not think that it would be the means of recording the collapse of the United States of America. Further evidence... 1 2
red750 Posted November 21 Posted November 21 'He would be a terrible enemy': Trump warned against attempt to 'break up' with key ally Donald Trump has formed a powerful alliance with the wealthiest man in the world, but an analyst explained why the two men are unlikely to split anytime soon. The president-elect has been palling around with Tesla CEO Elon Musk after the tech mogul poured hundreds of millions of dollars into his election win, and while many observers are waiting for Trump to eject his so-called co-president from his orbit, CNN's Stephen Collinson said he can't really afford to quit him. "He's putting himself in iconic situations, you know, he's standing there yesterday with his chin in the air, watching this rocket go up almost like there was some credit to accrue to him for the Elon Musk [achievement], and I guess he was basking in reflected glory because Musk is now part of his inner circle," Collinson said. "I think there's been a lot of talk about, okay, this is all going to blow up, right – they can't stick together." The South Africa-born tech mogul has been described as a shadow president, since he's prohibited from running himself, and has been advising Trump closely since the election and sticking by his side at Mar-a-Lago, and on Tuesday the pair watched Musk's SpaceX launch its giant Starship rocket to space from Texas. Trump is hanging around with the richest man in the world. He is a force multiplier in terms of power. He's a massive non-state actor, and I'm sure when Trump was watching that rocket go up, not only was he impressed, but he had to be thinking about Musk's power." "Musk is not just a great ally to have," Collinson added, "he would be a terrible enemy if if they did break up." 2
willedoo Posted November 21 Posted November 21 I can't see Trump's new best friend sticking around for long. Mixing two fragile egos like theirs is like mixing oil and water. There is a lot of difference between them though. Trump is very much a people person and thrives on socialising whereas Musk is very socially disfunctional. 1
facthunter Posted November 21 Posted November 21 USA is not large enough for TWO EGOS that big. With Donald ITS ALWAYS about HIM. Musk has to be "HIS" IDEA and soon HE will be JEALOUS of the diversion of attention FROM him.. Nev 3
onetrack Posted November 21 Posted November 21 Trump admires Musk because he has the MOST money of any person in the world - and he recognises the POWER that comes with that wealth - and he's currently in awe of it. But there'll come a time, probably not too far off, when he starts to see Musk becoming a real threat to HIS power, and then Musk will be cast out of the LOYAL followers. 1
facthunter Posted November 21 Posted November 21 That has been the FATE of everyone in the past, and there's no reason why the Pattern would CHANGE. Nev
red750 Posted November 21 Posted November 21 It was said that Joe was just a mouthpiece for minders behind the scene who made the decisions, Stories on the net suggesting that much of the BS from Trump is being fed to him by Musk, Barron T and others. and that Musk has made himself almost a defacto president. Apparently the Dept of Gov't Efficiency (DOGE) is Musks baby. Musk is now launching the Tesla phone, claimed to put iPhone out of business. Communication via satellite, charging from sunlight and controlling everything in your house for US$299. 1
onetrack Posted November 21 Posted November 21 The day any Musk product is in my possession - or even worse - controlling everything in my house - is the day that will never happen. 1
red750 Posted November 21 Posted November 21 Add Julia Roberts and Ellen DeGeneres to the list of people fleeing the USA. Ellen ha sold one house and selling n another in the US and has bought a place in the Cotswolds in the UK. 1
red750 Posted November 21 Posted November 21 Police report reveals new details from sexual assault allegation against Trump’s defense secretary nominee A California woman told police that Trump Cabinet pick Pete Hegseth physically blocked her from leaving a hotel room, took her phone, and then sexually assaulted her even though she “remembered saying ‘no’ a lot,” a police report obtained by CNN shows. The 22-page report, released by the city attorney’s office of Monterey, California, on Wednesday night in response to a public records request, lays out the competing narratives of what happened in new detail – including conflicting accounts of how intoxicated Hegseth and the woman were, and descriptions of video surveillance showing some of their movements that night. Hegseth, who President-elect Donald Trump has named as his pick for secretary of defense, told police that their encounter was consensual, and that he had repeatedly made sure the woman “was comfortable with what was going on between the two of them.” Seven years after the alleged assault, questions over what happened that night could jeopardize Hegseth’s nomination and seem likely to be central in his upcoming confirmation hearing. Hegseth was not charged with a crime in connection with the allegation. His attorney has acknowledged that Hegseth later entered into a settlement agreement with his accuser that included an undisclosed monetary payment and a confidentiality clause. Though Hegseth insisted the encounter was consensual, the lawyer said he was fearful that the woman was poised to make an allegation against him during the #MeToo movement that might have cost him his job as a Fox News host. “This police report confirms what I’ve said all along, that the incident was fully investigated, and police found the allegations to be false, which is why no charges were filed,” Timothy Parlatore, Hegseth’s attorney, told CNN on Wednesday night – although the report does not say that police found the allegations to be false. Read more here
red750 Posted November 21 Posted November 21 People Who Cut Off Family Members And Friends In The Last Few Weeks Over Trump's Historic Election Win Are Sharing Why Earlier this month, Donald Trump was again elected as the next President of the United States, and many Americans are understandably concerned about losing their rights. The country is more divisive than ever, and in light of the looming threat of fascism, many have decided to cut or reduce contact with friends and family members who voted for Trump. Others have argued for unity during this time and decried those who would allow "politics" to get in the way of personal relationships. To get a pulse on what people are thinking and feeling, we asked the BuzzFeed Community if they had cut anyone in their life out over Trump's win, and we got a number of illuminating responses. Here are their stories. 1."I cut most of my family off in 2016 after they voted for Trump for the first time. It started with a picture of a young Syrian boy who drowned. From the following conversations, I learned that my cousin absolutely believes her children are better and deserve better than that boy. ... It devolved from there. I realized that ... our morals and values were nothing alike. Now, in 2024, I have no contact with anyone in my 'family,' even the ones that I kept in my life at a distance after 2016. They voted for someone who doesn't care if my career helping children is defunded, that my LGBT+ child may lose their right to marry, that my child with a disability may lose their IEP funding, that my immigrant husband may lose his visa." "They don't care because they believe that their religion gives them the right to hate and discriminate and to govern their own morals and selfishness, and that is something I just can't be a part of." Read more here 1 1
red750 Posted November 21 Posted November 21 Host of the Weekly Show podcast, Jon Stewart, believes the reasoning Trump is selecting people like Linda McMahon and others is because he wants them to get rid of Education, Health and Human Services and other agencies. He wants federal government out of these things and pass them back to the states. 1 1
facthunter Posted November 21 Posted November 21 Gaetz is gone. Another "pick" fail. Steve Bannon Is a Trump stalwart who always looks "Sick" There will be an increasing number of Republicans who will wise up to the fact they were "JUST USED"as a means of Trump getting personal POWER. Nev 1
ClintonB Posted November 22 Posted November 22 22 hours ago, onetrack said: The day any Musk product is in my possession - or even worse - controlling everything in my house - is the day that will never happen. Unfortunately I have had to have starling installed at home and work. nbn could not connect the workshop under 12 months and there is barely any phone signal. home is in the bush with no land line. It works well, but morally I would prefer not to support him. 1 2
red750 Posted November 24 Posted November 24 People leaving America due to Trumps election- Robert De Nero George Clooney Ellen DeGeneres Tom Hanks Whoopi Goldberg Probably more I can't think of right now. 1
pmccarthy Posted November 24 Posted November 24 The more important question is where are they going? 1 1
nomadpete Posted November 24 Posted November 24 The rich and famous are often globe trotting. It means little. The everyday people are not globally mobile. Many ar only vaguely aware that 'other places' exist and probably still think 'everywhere else' is much worse than Great USA. Like the masses everywhere, they are passengers on the politicians national train ride. 3
gareth lacey Posted November 24 Posted November 24 We are full, we dont want these these idiot woke eeps 1
nomadpete Posted November 24 Posted November 24 I just want Van Diemens Land to secede from the Commonwealth and declare itself independant. Then I can forget about the mainland federal government altogether. And we would have one less level of incompetance. 1 1
red750 Posted November 24 Posted November 24 3 hours ago, pmccarthy said: The more important question is where are they going? The only ones I know are - Ellen DeGeneres and Portia De Rossi have moved to the Cotswolds, where they was met with banners saying 'Go Home', and Tom Hanks and his wife already own a property in Greece and have Greek citizenship. I believe some are going to Canada or Mexico. 1
onetrack Posted November 24 Posted November 24 The thing is, American law enforcement will reach out to any country in the world to arrest you on American law charges - even Trumped-up ones.
facthunter Posted November 24 Posted November 24 The IMPORTANT thing is WHY do they feel they HAV#E to leave? Nev 1
red750 Posted November 24 Posted November 24 I found a report that although an outspoken opponent of Trump, De Niro is not leaving America. The common reason appears to be "It's not the America I know and love, democracy is dead." 1
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