What has Trump done now?

[pmccarthy]

I am intrigued that "half" the Americans think Trump is worth having but on this forum we only have Trump haters. I wonder what the statistic is for Australians. 

[octave]

PM don't you think he is challenging to like?

Inarticulate

Narcissistic

Tells gargantuan lies - They are eating the dawgs in Springfield, and your child goes to school and comes home with a sex change operation. 

Appointing a vaccine-denier nutjob to lead the health department

Adjudicated sexual abuser

Brags about grabbing women by the pussy 

Doesn't seek to negotiate in good faith but to bully.

Thinks he has to have Greenland regardless of the Greenlanders or Dane thinks

A grifter selling Donald J Trump bibles and watches and digital cards to his gullible followers. 

Sucks up to dictators

Wants to turn back women's reproductive rights

 

I could go on and on. I don't many good character traits there at all

 

[old man emu]

15 minutes ago, pmccarthy said:

I wonder what the statistic is for Australians. 

Of those Australians who care to think about US politics, I reckon 50-50 could be possible. There is a lot of us here who have little regard for Trump. Who see his faults and are prepared to call him out over them. On the other hand, there are those, not necessarily here, who admire him. Dutton is one. I was reading the Sydney Sunday Telegraph this week and that paper is fully behind Trump. 

 

At least right here were are prepared to agree to disagree without going beyond putting down our side of the argument in writing, and, best of all, playing the ball not the player.

[rgmwa]

I don't hate Trump personally and he won the election fair and square. I just think he is a lowlife. Even that wouldn't matter if he didn't have so much power.

 

[red750]

All those sycophants on Fox News.

[spacesailor]

( We're ) " I did-not write this word ". ( merely left-out the H ) .

Where was our democracy in 1975 ! .

When Fraser's party held back ' supply funding ' then had the GG sack the " duly elected "  party from government . 

With,  ' it is rumoured ' ,  CIA involvement .

spacesailor

 

Edited Monday at 09:09 AM by spacesailor

[pmccarthy]

I think Trump is most of the things that Ovtave said. But I also think he is so far achieving a lot and may be very good for aamerica and even for the world. I hope he is going to take Putin on and force himself to back down in Ukraine.

[Grumpy Old Nasho]

"Promises made, promises kept"

[Jerry_Atrick]

We have already had referecnes to his progress against promised made when he was in power last. And guess what, some he kept, some he didn't at all, and some partially; about the same as any other political party/leader.

 

1 hour ago, pmccarthy said:

I am intrigued that "half" the Americans think Trump is worth having but on this forum we only have Trump haters. I wonder what the statistic is for Australians. 

I would also guess, for Australia, it may (or since he has taken office, especially with his empty Gaza of Palestinians for a while) or many not be 50-50..

 

But to say half the Amercians think Trump is worth having, is probably a misnomer. Voters these days are more focused in voting for the least worst option, or punishing the incumbents than wanting the other side: https://apnews.com/article/global-elections-2024-incumbents-defeated-c80fbd4e667de86fe08aac025b333f95

 

When Biden was running, there was a lot made about how no one wanted either candidate. Notjing to suggest they all suddenly thought he was worth having.

 

 

[kgwilson]

Trump won because he got the most electoral college votes. He also won because he got the most votes of any candidate (the popular vote), but more than 50% of the voters didn't vote for him and only 64% of eligible voters actually voted.

 

According to Trump that is a landslide victory, NOT.

[Grumpy Old Nasho]

"Trumps approval rating is higher now than in his entire first term"

 

 

[Jerry_Atrick]

Sorry - not believing crap spat out by Sky New Aus...

 

Maybe a more respectable news organisation can shed some light: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-starts-new-term-with-47-approval-jan-6-pardons-unpopular-reutersipsos-poll-2025-01-21/

 

 

[red750]

The negative results of his actions haven't hit home yet, they are still living on euphoria. It's only been 7 days.

 

Seeing all the pre-election crap and comments on Farcebook, they are expecting miracles. Give it 3 or 4 months and things don't improve the way they hope, eg. cheaper eggs, gasoline, groceries, etc., and the impact of his policies on the cost of medicines, education, etc. start to hurt, that euphoria will evaporate.

 

 

 

 

[Marty_d]

2 hours ago, pmccarthy said:

I think Trump is most of the things that Ovtave said. But I also think he is so far achieving a lot and may be very good for aamerica and even for the world. I hope he is going to take Putin on and force himself to back down in Ukraine.

Take Putin on?

 

Seriously?

 

Putin knows Trump is a clown.  He's about as much threat to Putin as slap with a wet lettuce (with apologies to Keating for mangling his quote).

[rgmwa]

1 hour ago, Grumpy Old Nasho said:

"Trumps approval rating is higher now than in his entire first term"

 

 

Yes, it’s about 48% and likely to be going down soon when the voters rediscover what a moron he is. Not much to brag about. 

[rgmwa]

3 hours ago, pmccarthy said:

I hope he is going to take Putin on and force himself to back down in Ukraine.

Trump will more likely side with Putin against Ukraine. He doesn’t like Zelensky. Putin has no respect for Trump and Trump is out of his depth against Putin but doesn’t know it. 

[red750]

Talk now that California wants to secede.

[onetrack]

Trump thinks he's the worlds great DEAL MAKER. He makes deals alright, but only to benefit himself, no-one else.

 

Putin will offer Trump a "GREAT DEAL" by allowing Trump to do something like build hotels and golf courses in Russia, and that will immediately send Trump into high praise for Putin, and start him off parroting all the Putin diatribe, about how Russia fears for its existence against the war-mongering West, so it HAS to arm itself and try to "protect" its borders against the Nazis who want to take over Russia.

 

Then Putin will be grinning like a fox, as Trump turns his invective and nastiness onto Zelinsky, and Trump will tell Zelinsky to hand back all that "illegal" Russian territory Ukraine has held for years.

With a bit of luck, and with more backing from the NATO countries, Zelinsky just might tell Trump to shove his attitude and his outrageous demands.

[Jerry_Atrick]

 

 

54 minutes ago, Marty_d said:

Take Putin on?

 

Seriously?

 

Putin knows Trump is a clown.  He's about as much threat to Putin as slap with a wet lettuce (with apologies to Keating for mangling his quote).

I have to agree... sometimes in international diplomacy, especially with Putin and co., a tougher stance is needed. His threatening of implementing much tougher sanctions against Russia is a good start; Biden was afraid of upsetting world oil markets.. which is fair enough in one way, but at some stage, part of being in a society means having to swallow bitter pills for the greater good. Without putting boots on the ground, hard sanctions is a better way to go..

 

But, while Zelensky is saying Trump has Ukraine's back, I wouldn't count on it. if Trump plays hard man and Putin calls his bliff, or China gets involved, either by helping Russia amelioate the sanctions, or more actively/aggresively, then Trump is likely to change his tune. Like Putin, he can't back down and he certainly doesn't want to commit US troops to the effort. So, in order to extricate himslef and not look to be beaten, he will probably force Ukraine to gice up territory. That will allow Putin to also save face.. He will market it as a success and a win because he has stoped the war. It is like saying to a thief, if you give yourself up I won't prosecute you and you can keep what you stole.

[nomadpete]

9 hours ago, Jerry_Atrick said:

Sorry - not believing crap spat out by Sky New Aus...

A clear sign of myopic bias on your part!

[Grumpy Old Nasho]

The White House claimed victory in a showdown with Colombia

 

https://apnews.com/article/colombia-immigration-deportation-flights-petro-trump-us-67870e41556c5d8791d22ec6767049fd

 

Trump wins again. He's getting tired of winning.

[kgwilson]

Colombia turned the US military aircraft away as the deportees were treated as criminals with hand and foot restraints. These people are Colombian citizens and deserve to be treated with respect which is why Petro changed his mind and is sending Colombian aircraft to pick them up. How do you think our government would react if the same thing happened to Australians who found themselves in a similar predicament?

 

They may not have had the appropriate documentation to be in the US but they had jobs, families, homes and lifestyles. There are about 12 million illegal immigrants in the US. If they all get deported who is going to do all the work?

[facthunter]

By outright Bullying. Most of the World thinks  Trump is a dill. Putin has flattered him and THAT goes down well because Trump is nothing. if not VAIN. People need to be" Afraid " of this bloke. He's a loose cannon and capable of trying anything STUPID.  Nev

[octave]

Colombia has taken back immigrants in the past without all the controversy.

 

Colombia has accepted deportation flights from the US in the past. In 2024, 124 planes carrying deported migrants from the US landed in the country.

But President Petro appeared to object to the return of deportees on military rather than civilian flights - and to the way the migrants may be treated on those military flights.

 

Trump and some of his followers are only happy when Trump as bully.  You might say who cares?   We live in a world where China is challenging the US for power and influence.  The US being world bully only serves to drive countries towards China.    For Trump respectful negotiation is of the table. His brand is being obnoxious.  If you believe that Trump achieved a great coup by returning these immigrants then surely you should have even more praise for the previous administration who returned  124 planes in 2024.

[nomadpete]

48 minutes ago, Grumpy Old Nasho said:

The White House claimed victory in a showdown with Colombia

They have a long way to go. The Biden administration sent over 400 plane loads of illegal migrants away during their 4 years. (To Various nations). All done without diplomatic argument such as Trump had in Columbia.

Edited Monday at 09:43 PM by nomadpete