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If making money is at the heart of the US culture, then it is suffering a massive heart attack.

 

Even before Trump was sworn in, there existed a major threat to the economy that no one seems to talk about. It is the massive drop in egg production, resulting from the presence of bird flu amongst the country's poultry. The disease control rule is that, if one bird gets the flu, every bird in the shed has to be destroyed. That has almost wiped out egg production. "So what", you say. "It'll just be bacon for breakfast, not bacon and eggs." But consider how many other manufactured foods have eggs in them. No more Twinkies in school lunch boxes.

 

Many of Trump's billionaire techy mates have promised squillions of dollars for the development of AI.  Since early trading began on January 27th the market value of Nvidia, an AI chipmaking champion, has slumped by 17% at the time of writing. The share prices of Alphabet, Amazon and Microsoft—America’s cloud-computing triumvirate—have fallen by 3%, 1% and 3%, respectively. All told, American tech companies have shed around $1trn in value. This is all because of a Chinese AI company's release of an AI version called DeepSeek claiming its performance is ‘on par with OpenAI-o1’. 

 

Finally I don't have to reiterate that Trump's deportation policy, and tariff threats against China have decimated US agriculture. 

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Give it a couple of years and Colombians will be deporting planeloads of American refugees, all seeking to escape Trumps brutal and erratic decisions and executive orders, that will have led to poorer economic outcomes for most working class Americans.

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Trump's a DANGEROUS IGNORAMUS. Of ALL the People in the USA you ELECT this one? WELL, Trump DID say " there arent many geniuses in the USA" Now that's coming from the highest Authority, remember?  nev

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It's not just Trump. He's enthusiastically signing the orders, but a lot of this is the work of the Project 2025 fanatics working in the background and pushing him to do it.

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Here is an interesting figure - 

  • About 8.3 million U.S. workers in 2022 were unauthorized immigrants, an increase from 7.4 million in 2019. The 2022 number is essentially the same as previous highs in 2008 and 2011.

If all of these workers are deported US citizens will need to do this low-paid and often back-breaking work or wages and food prices have to go up substantially. 

 

 

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9 hours ago, nomadpete said:

A clear sign of myopic bias on your part!

Maybe, but it is based on evidence of out of context reporting time and time again..  which is why, later, I quoted a more reliable source... 

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2 hours ago, Jerry_Atrick said:

Maybe, but it is based on evidence of out of context reporting time and time again..  which is why, later, I quoted a more reliable source... 

It was a tongue in cheek comment. I thought you would see that.

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3 hours ago, Grumpy Old Nasho said:

Who could possibly be proud of that? 

 

Global citizenship hasn't arrived yet.

True, but USA have been relying on such workers to keep food availabe. It looks very shortsighted to suddenly remove the work force that provides food for the nation.

 

Like Australia, in USA there are insufficient numbers of citizens prepared to do menial work to put food on our tables.

 

What is Trump doing to provide new workers to harvest food for Americans, once he deports all those farm workers?

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22 minutes ago, pmccarthy said:

They will only deport enough to deter further arrivals. Probably half a million at most.

Fair enough but why raid farms and factories rather than starting with those who are actually sponging off society? 

 

 

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6 hours ago, pmccarthy said:

So far I believe it has been criminals that they had previously been monitoring and any associates found with them.

At least the criminals in the US are being deported. Our High Court released alleged refugee murderers from detention centers here, to live the good life the ALP is arranging for them.

 

We need a "Donald Trump" to fix a few things in Oz ... deport the refugee criminals to start with.

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1 hour ago, Grumpy Old Nasho said:

 

We need a "Donald Trump" to fix a few things in Oz ... deport the refugee criminals to start with.

Speak for yourself.

If you were to poll Australians about what they think of Trump, I reckon you'd find yourself in a very small minority.

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1 hour ago, Grumpy Old Nasho said:

At least the criminals in the US are being deported.

 

Pity he pardoned  Jan 6 thugs many of whom are extremely violent.   One of these criminals has already been killed in an altercation with a police officer.

 

 

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Just an observation. I was watching some stuff about what Trump is doing at the moment. That stuff included journalists' comments and the comments of elected officials. What struck me is that in all the stuff I watched, no one has used the word "President" before saying "Donald Trump". That omission is in stark contrast to how he was being described before the inauguration. During the election campaign it was always "former President", and afterwards it was "President-elect".

 

The Americans have always addressed their Presidents with the greatest respect. Now it appears that Trump has so sullied the Office of President that the level of respect towards him is no more than that which would be given to a sports or movie star who would only be spoken of by the use of a surname. If there is one thing that Trump can be assured of, it is that he will be recorded in US history as the most disliked President the country has ever had. It's hard to imagine a President in the future who could be worse.

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They said that of Baby Bush. I think you are reading too much into the Use of the term President though some have awarded that title to Musk. Musk is the "Real McCoy" when it comes to Weird and Scary.  Nev

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3 minutes ago, facthunter said:

I think you are reading too much into the Use of the term President

 "Too much"? OK, I'll back off and just say that I am reading something into what I have observed.

 

"Australian for a republic" or not, wouldn't you continue to say "King Charles"? That is his title. Listen to how every other national leader is identified. It is always with the use of their title of office. To hear US politicians and journalists, who have been brought up to use the format, not using it has to indicate something. I say it is a loss of respect, not os much for the office, but for the incumbent.

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