What has Trump done now?

[Grumpy Old Nasho]

2 minutes ago, octave said:

Project 2025 openly states that its adoption will change things for many years to come.

Go you good thing.

[octave]

1 minute ago, Grumpy Old Nasho said:

Go you good thing.

Great comeback. I am guessing you have no intellectually based arguments to put.

[facthunter]

Go to Italy and Join the MAFIA GON. . Can't you see this is the end of the People having any SAY in what's done. WHERE has THAT worked?  Nev

[rgmwa]

7 minutes ago, octave said:

True but many of the people around him have been appointed 

Agreed, and many worked for him in his last administration - something like 30-40 people I recall reading somewhere. They will still be around after Trump has gone, and in the meantime have orchestrated the infiltration at all levels of government of like-minded people. Trump is just their ignorant and self-interested facilitator.

[Grumpy Old Nasho]

Yes, a bit like the ALP and the Coalition have infiltrated into all levels of government and everything else in OZ. Nothing can be done without them approving it and being done their way.

 

Trump is only copying what the two major parties do here. The major parties infiltrate into everything and making sure they have the right puppets as heads of all govt Departments, the RBA, the AFP, the AEC, the military, the ABC, etc, etc.

[octave]

25 minutes ago, Grumpy Old Nasho said:

Yes, a bit like the ALP and the Coalition have infiltrated into all levels of government and everything else in OZ. Nothing can be done without them approving it and being done their way.

Rubbish.  Whilst this thing may be slowly creeping in there is a history in this country of not purging public servants.  I guarantee that whilst some department heads may be moved sideways there have never been full-scale purges like Trump is doing.

 

Whilst I regularly have debates with people who are on the other side of the political spectrum but I have respect for them because they attempt to put forward rational arguments.  Unfortunately, you tend to divert from the points being made and you also give one-sentence answers. 

 

A point I made was this (in a little more detail)

There is a shortage of air traffic controllers in the US

A recent fatal accident occurred when there was only one controller on duty when normally there would be two.  (we wont know the significance until the investigation is finished)

Trump has fired a whole bunch of air traffic controllers

New government hires are required to prove their loyalty to Trump/Maga.

 

This is monumentally stupid. His requirement for arse kissers is dangerous.  You seem to be OK with this as long as he gets rid of the nasty brown people and gets Ukraine to surrender to his buddy Putin.

 

 

[facthunter]

IF you read much Aviation comment from the USA you'd be amazed how many think as GON does. It's like "sack the lot of that Lazy bunch  stuff and we'll  ALL be better OFF."  WTF.  Nev

[Marty_d]

Simple people like simple solutions.

But simple solutions don't work for complex problems.

We've been dumbed down.

[Grumpy Old Nasho]

What we need at the moment is a far right minister of immigration. This would counter the entrenched far left leaning bipartisan policy we have right now, and always have had. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over hoping for a different result.

 

In the US, Trump is busting up the established far left to bring back sanity to the economy, immigration, and to put the US back on a strong footing without the confusion of internationalism and wokism, ruining America.

 

 

[facthunter]

Vance said "It's Trumps WORLD. NOW"   WHO do these PEOPLE think they are??  Nev

[rgmwa]

21 minutes ago, Grumpy Old Nasho said:

In the US, Trump is busting up the established far left to bring back sanity to the economy, immigration, and to put the US back on a strong footing without the confusion of internationalism and wokism, ruining America.

He is bringing chaos, not sanity or stability to the economy and immigration, and weakening the US from within at all levels, and internationally as well, to the delight of Russia and China. Putin and Xi can't believe their good luck. Putin will probably give him the Order of Lenin or some such medal when they meet up as a token of his appreciation.

[old man emu]

23 minutes ago, Grumpy Old Nasho said:

What we need at the moment is a far-right minister of immigration

I interpret that statement to imply GON thinks that our current immigrants are radical Lefties.  From my observation of immigrant settlement in the area of Sydney where I used to live, I would say that the immigrants are very conservative. Sure, there are a few deeply radicalised ones, but they are radicalised to the far Right. Every society has its nut cases.

 

What would a Far-Right Minister for Immigration do? Ask each immigrant if they believed in equality of the sexes, or were in favour of nuclear and coal power generation over solar and wind? I think most immigrants would shrug their shoulders and simply ask for employment for themselves and an education for their children

[old man emu]

By the way, who told Trump he could tell the Ukraine that they had no place in the peace talks? Not one US military person fought in that war with the approval of the US government. Zelenskyy's demand to sit at the table reminds me of Billy Hughes' retort to US President Wilson at the Paris, "“I speak for 60,000 Australian war dead,” When US President Woodrow Wilson tried to belittle Australian Prime Minister Billy Hughes at the 1919 Versailles peace conference by asking who he represented.

[Marty_d]

41 minutes ago, Grumpy Old Nasho said:

What we need at the moment is a far right minister of immigration. This would counter the entrenched far left leaning bipartisan policy we have right now, and always have had. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over hoping for a different result.

 

In the US, Trump is busting up the established far left to bring back sanity to the economy, immigration, and to put the US back on a strong footing without the confusion of internationalism and wokism, ruining America.

 

 

"Confusion of internationalism and wokism"... What are you smoking?

[old man emu]

3 minutes ago, Marty_d said:

What are you smoking?

Good shit, man.

[facthunter]

There's NO GOOD $#!t. . There's ONLY BAD & Worse.  Nev

[Litespeed]

And it sure seems like some are Dumb Shits

[facthunter]

They like "USA Uber Alles". GOD ZONE.   Nev.

[rgmwa]

The takeover of the Justice Department by the convicted felon continues:

[kgwilson]

And he is now blaming Ukraine for Putins invasion. There are no limits to this megalomaniacs depravity.

[Marty_d]

I certainly can't imagine a "fair" Justice department if it's staffed with Trump arse-lickers.

[old man emu]

What Trump and Musk are doing to the Government of the USA keeps bringing this short scene to mind

 

And this one

 

[rgmwa]

He’s now called Zelensky a dictator who should ‘move fast’ or he won’t have a country left. Putin is saying that he has now given Trump the correct information about Ukraine. This is not going to end well for Ukraine.

[Marty_d]

That's classic Trump. Real dictators are wonderful people, while the people they invaded are the bad guys.

He's raised lying to an art form.

[facthunter]

I reckon he's gone too far with this one. It's ALL about doing deals with Put IN and $$$s. to be MADE. Zelenski was voted IN at about 75% AND ESTIMATED 57% NOW.  TRUMP GOT LESS THAN 51% and has to have tight security when he goes anywhere. I don't think AMERICANS will accept the New BEST FRIEND that easily after years of being Paranoid about their Power.   HE couldn't care a fig about the People who successfully held back a sneaky. Un trustable World nuke threatening  Superpower INVADER.   MILIONS have died needlessly he said. Yeah about 1/3rd as many as the Zionist push in Isreal. Nev