What has Trump done now?

[facthunter]

Trump is a CREEP. A KNOWN pussygrabber.  Nev

[rgmwa]

Zelenskyy made the fatal mistake of criticising Putin and telling Trump and Vance the truth about the war in front of the media. It was made worse because English isn't Zelenskyy's first language which made it difficult for him to get his points across in a more diplomatic way. While it showed exactly what disgusting specimens of humanity Trump and Vance are, it hasn't helped Zelenskyy and Ukraine. The only question now is how much more Trump will want to extract out of the minerals deal, and whether he cuts of all military aid as punishment for what he sees as Zelenskyy's insolence. This rant from Trump is interesting as it explains a lot about why he sees Putin as an ally:

 

Let me tell you, Putin went through a hell of a lot with me. He went through a phony witch hunt where they used him and Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia. You ever hear of that deal? That was a phony. That was a phony Hunter Biden, Joe Biden scam. Hillary Clinton, shifty Adam Schiff. It was a Democrat scam. And he had to go through that. And he did go through it. We didn’t end up in a war. And he went through it. He was accused of all that stuff. He had nothing to do with it. It came out of Hunter Biden’s bathroom. It came out of Hunter Biden’s bedroom. It was disgusting. And then they said, ‘Oh, the laptop from hell was made by Russia.’ The 51 agents. The whole thing was a scam. And he had to put up with that.

[facthunter]

yeah Putin is as pure as the driven slush. A man whose word is his bond? Doesn't LIE to the UN?  Who never breaks deals and who doesn't murder his opponents and gets 98% of the votes and doesn't start wars or target civilians.?  UP is DOWN. Nev

[nomadpete]

Personally I cannot see how Zelrnsky can be blamed for Dunny's dummyspit.

 

Some trump pets are openly blaming Zelensky and demanding apologies for 'disrespect'.

 

From where I sit, Zelensky wasn't given much opportunity to say much at all. And pres elect was the one being very very disrespectful.

[maxhr54]

Gonna be a rush to guns , ammo and nukes.

it's every man/country for himself, alliances mean nuffin, 

trust no one.

 

 

[red750]

A picture is worth 1000 words.

 

 

 

 

 

[nomadpete]

23 hours ago, rgmwa said:

We have no eternal allies, and we have no perpetual enemies. Our interests are

Our interests are personal greed.

 

 

Collectively we were once heading toward unifying the world (globalisation) but now we are reverting to 'dog eat dog' , and 'might is right'.

 

Unfortunately we live in a inconsequentially minor country. As do Ukrainians.

 

At the present rate, will the occupants of the USA be joining us?

[facthunter]

Zelensky being grossly insulted at every move and having to defend himself in a foreign language in a rotten Pile on which must have come as a RUDE shock. Also Trump  will oppose his country Joining NATO. US forces in Iceland are only there as part of the NATO ALLIANCE. . Trump Listens to NO ONE.  That's been the Pattern of his life. Perfect preparation for the DICTATOR HE IS.  Nev

[facthunter]

His Neice MARY Trump, Keeps commentating. SHE WOULD KNOW. Look them up.   Nev

[old man emu]

I watched several videos of this meeting. Most of them were short clips from news services. However the last one I watched was a long one, in which the creator broke the whole meeting into short pieces. Knowing what was being said in each of these pieces, I didn't pay much attention to what was being said (mostly by Trump), but watched Zelenskyy's  body language, mainly his facial expressions. You could almost hear him thinking, "What' this f-wit going on about?". In fact at least twice towards the end he inhaled through his nose very forcibly, as one would if one had a runny nose. Different cultures have different non-verbal communications. I don't know it what Z did was a Ukrainian thing, but I'm willing to bet that it is a sign of disgust.

 

1 hour ago, nomadpete said:

Unfortunately we live in a inconsequentially minor country.

Trump has put US/Australian relations on eggshells. Those who don't read history believe that the Yanks are the altruistic defenders of democracy and the weak. Bullshit.  The Yanks will do just enough to push back the attackers of democracy and the weak, but as soon as that is achieved, they will abandon those it "helped" and go hell for leather to gain as much as it can. Look back at the way Macarthur denigrated the victories of Australian forces in New Guinea and the subsequent push towards Japan. To the US, Australia is simply a safe place from which to support its goals in the Asia-Pacific region. Would Trump come at Australia, saying, 'Let's make a deal, dope'?

 

 I've watched two comments from our Prime Minister. The first was a response to Trump's asking what AUKUS was. Mr. Prime Minister simply said that there are lots of acronyms in politics and it is easy to forget what each one means. I think that response was, in the current political climate, a well-thought-out one. It was the Goldilocks response, not too hot, not too cold, just right. It was made at a time when the US has not announced the level of tariff it intends to apply to imports from Australia. It is clear that the Right Wing media has sensationalised the incident, which in reality doesn't upset the condition of the contents of a teacup.

 

The second video was our Prime Minister's response to a question about the Trump/Zelenskyy meeting. Once again Mr. Prime Minister was diplomatic, only reiterating the Australia stands with Ukraine. He dodged the trap in the question, as any one practiced in diplomacy would. Best to keep out of the ring and save one's country from being hurt in the aftermath. 

[red750]

[facthunter]

Those are rare responses Most Imic Trump and how ungrateful  Zelenski  IS when he's Publicly Fu**ed Over. I wouldn't have kept my cool I can assure you.  US standing world wide goes for a dive. But don't worry They don't VOTE so WHO cares? America FIRST  and the rest can go Jump. Tariff is the best word in the dictionary. Who needs friends when you have all the Money? The rest are Suckers and Losers

 

         THIS will Not end well.   Nev

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[Marty_d]

It's Europe's time to step up.  

 

We seriously have to reconsider both AUKUS (Awkers) and the 5 eyes partnership.  What point is intelligence sharing with the US when we have a dictator-lovin' Putin puppet in charge?  Plus his cabinet is comprised of arse licking sycophants.  Definitely not trustworthy people.

I think the global West has to face the sad fact that the USA is no longer a trustworthy partner.

[Jerry_Atrick]

I don't normally watch BTC videos - not because I am opposed to them - in fact I mainly agree with his view points, but because there is something about his style that irritates me. Bu there are a few things to take heart. First, almost unequivocally, Europe is standing hehind Ukraine. No doubt the likes of Orban are quietly smug at the moment. But the other, is that despite the fact the yanks voted in Trump, there is a good number that didn't.. although, as I said before, in the end, the yanks did hand power to him.

 

Anyway, as they (used to) say in cinemas, roll the tape:

 

[facthunter]

No Matter what such commenters say the Fact is Many Noisy USA people love what he's doing. Nev

[nomadpete]

So far, all we have is....

 

USA pulls military support from Ukraine.

 

Not really unexpected, in spite of Dunny's theatrical dummy spit.

 

What matters is....

 

Will EU step up enough to help Ukraine push back the invaders?

 

I would dearly love to see Ukraine re-establish their sovereign borders. Especially without any involvement from USA.

 

I live in hope....

[nomadpete]

The ultimate slap in the face for trumpets, would be to see Ukraine succeed without their self serving 'help'

[Marty_d]

Would Trump then go to the aid of his puppet master?

 

I hope Ukraine rip up any agreement about minerals and drops the US as a trading partner.

 

The English language is too limited. There isn't a word bad enough for the person currently pretending to be the US president.

Edited March 1 by Marty_d

[Jerry_Atrick]

As it turns out the Starmer/Trump meeting was playing on the radio as I was driving home. There was only so much of it I could stomach. Starmer was fawming over trump as if starmer was a new recruit to the mafia lslurping every picometre of runny shit that emanates from Trumps arse. And then he handed him a letter from the King, which was a historic, never done before, second invitation of a state visit to the monarch (first time was the Queen). I guess this is what Brexit does - we can't sell as much to the EU anymore, so we are so fearful of tariffs, that we grovel to whom is clear, is a criminal - that was evident in listening to him in the interview. He now has his seat at the oval office so doesn't have to hold back; in fact he knows unless he can pull off a dictatorship, this is his last 4 years at it.. and it was very evident.

 

I haven't read all the news, but what I have read is that he "played a blinder".. yeah.. blindfoldedly sucking the presidential clock. But despite all of that, he, too had to correct the repeated like that was apouted again that the US gave Ukraine all their money, and Europe (and UK) only lent it. I have to give credit to Starmer in that he was able to correct the record without pissing off Trump, but I guess he was still slurping down the ship at the same time.

 

There is going to be four years of turmoil and there are two real options - western democracies will be severly battered and limping along, or it will be much stronger for having weaned itself off the teat of the USA - something it should have done long ago. Albanese is being his usual bumbling self, but unequivocally rebuking Trump's position; even Dutton has, too.

 

 

[pmccarthy]

I am devestated. I thought Trump had a cunning plan, like in Blackadder. Now I know he is a total f…wit. And about the minerals, I did some more reading, there aren’t any. It was all BS.

[Grumpy Old Nasho]

In the meantime, console yourselves by watching the rainbow Mardi Gras prance down Oxford Street Sydney.

[nomadpete]

What Has Trump Done Now?

 

He seems to have put the final nails into the coffin of democracy. The USA was previously labelled a 'fractured democracy'. I think it is now a failed democracy.

 

It is time for europe to consolidate their democratic values, and leave USA to themselves.

 

USA is clearly not an ally. They are exploiters. Everything USA has become a case of 'what's in it for us' and 'show me the money'!

[old man emu]

2 hours ago, Jerry_Atrick said:

Albanese is being his usual bumbling self, but unequivocally rebuking Trump's position

I disagree that Albo is bumbling. As I said earlier, Albo did declare Australia to be standing by Ukraine's side. Although I didn't hear Dutton say anything, I firmly hope that I am correct in thinking that he supported Albo's declaration. 

 

I said that Australia is still concerned about the uncertainty of Trump's tariffs, which are due to come into effect next Wednesday, our time. Better to keep one's mouth shut until one knows if there is anything to say.

 

At the moment Albo has to deal with political point scoring arising from the movements of the Chinese navy. Where's the hullaballoo over the US nuclear sub arriving in Perth? Oh! There can't be any of that since SkyNews and the Conservative media are all for it.

 

 

[Marty_d]

2 hours ago, Grumpy Old Nasho said:

In the meantime, console yourselves by watching the rainbow Mardi Gras prance down Oxford Street Sydney.

Ah, so you're a homophobe to add to your other values?

[Grumpy Old Nasho]

31 minutes ago, Marty_d said:

Ah, so you're a homophobe to add to your other values?

So would you be if you were molested by a poofta, at six years of age. I found out many years later molesting young boys ran in his family, brothers, cousins ... one was arrested recently, he was a descendant from those original fags. I never forgot their surname, just in case a cop ever asked me at a later stage.