Grumpy Old Nasho Posted January 23 Posted January 23 21 minutes ago, octave said: You sure seem to be obsessed with Penny Wong. Her job is to represent the best interests of Australia not her own personal feelings. It is not in our country's interest to get on the wrong side of this guy because we know that is not in our interests. Not really, I was just wondering she would attend the inauguration of a bloke she hates to her core. She is already on the wrong side of Trump, as is the party she belongs to. We rely too heavily on the United States, it's time we stood on our own two feet.
red750 Posted January 23 Posted January 23 https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/danish-politician-issues-foul-mouthed-warning-to-trump-over-greenland/ss-AA1xBmho?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=89e0fbe3f6064168b3b23053591961b9&ei=20
kgwilson Posted January 23 Posted January 23 https://www.stuff.co.nz/world-news/360557051/mr-trump-f-danish-politicians-greenland-stand
red750 Posted January 23 Posted January 23 https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/cruelty-outrage-as-trump-strips-secret-service-detail-from-ex-assassination-target/ar-AA1xC7BS?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=01cf959ac4d64928dcee237dc7489eff&ei=8 1
kgwilson Posted January 23 Posted January 23 23 hours ago, pmccarthy said: The Berlin Wall was a very cost-effective measure that did exactly what it was designed to do. Yes it was. It was designed to stop people from the GDR escaping to West Germany for a better life. It was a prison wall. 3
nomadpete Posted January 23 Posted January 23 1 hour ago, Grumpy Old Nasho said: Penny wasn't brave enough to further explain what she meant by "differently". I see that differently. I think she was being diplomatic. And it is not her job to stir up foreign leaders. There is nothing to be gained from poking the bear. 1
facthunter Posted January 23 Posted January 23 Do you think it was easy for Penny Wong to get where she is? She's had to handle some of the toughest situations in foreign affairs of ANYONE. 2 1
nomadpete Posted January 23 Posted January 23 (edited) 14 minutes ago, facthunter said: She's had to handle some of the toughest situations in foreign affairs of ANYONE. I don't believe you. If she had a foreign affair, I would have read about it in the papers. (ONLY JOKING, OF COURSE) Edited January 23 by nomadpete 1 2
facthunter Posted January 23 Posted January 23 SHE has a Partner. I'm treating this in a serious way and I believe SHE deserves that.. Nev 1
nomadpete Posted January 23 Posted January 23 Sorry Nev. No offense intended. From what I have observed over the years, Ms Wong sets a rare high standard in our country's politics. As I mentioned, Penny Wong did well to be as diplomatic as possible. She was meeting with a man who is alleged to easily bear a grudge if offended. 3
facthunter Posted January 23 Posted January 23 He actively Proposes to seek them out and punish them. HE has FORM already, in this area. He's NOT a FIT Person to be where he is. . The rest of the World knows this, and it will affect who "RESPECTS AMERICA" under his (Guidance? shall we call it? Nev 1
Grumpy Old Nasho Posted January 23 Posted January 23 25 minutes ago, nomadpete said: I see that differently. I think she was being diplomatic. And it is not her job to stir up foreign leaders. There is nothing to be gained from poking the bear. She poked the bear by publicly saying Trump will do things differently, implying that her lefty politics is better his politics. That's not what I call being diplomatic. I reckon she's probably thought about it and will adjust her "diplomatic" language in the future, if she gets re-elected.
octave Posted January 23 Posted January 23 9 minutes ago, Grumpy Old Nasho said: She poked the bear by publicly saying Trump will do things differently, implying that her lefty politics is better his politics. That's not what I call being diplomatic. I reckon she's probably thought about it and will adjust her "diplomatic" language in the future, if she gets re-elected. It is obvious that Trump is not like any other and does do things differently. Trump would see this as a compliment, he doesn't pretend to be like any other president. Someone on here said we should judge Trump by what he does rather than what he says. Now he is president he is doing things that we can judge him for. Do you support pardons for violent Jan 6ers who assaulted police? 2
facthunter Posted January 23 Posted January 23 You're a bit of an expert on these things are you.? You are also giving out mixed messages about relations with the US. Your basic position appears to Labor Here and Biden there CAN'T/haven't DONE anything right? The largest waste of Australians money was with Morrisons generosity with BIG Companies during COVID and the stupid AUKUS deal. $600 Billion at Least. A debt Burden to carry for ages. Nev 2
rgmwa Posted January 23 Posted January 23 35 minutes ago, Grumpy Old Nasho said: She poked the bear by publicly saying Trump will do things differently, implying that her lefty politics is better his politics. That's not what I call being diplomatic. I reckon she's probably thought about it and will adjust her "diplomatic" language in the future, if she gets re-elected. I just see that as her stating the obvious and stroking Trump's ego at the same time. Nothing to do with her politics being better or worse than his. It was a shrewd answer. 1
nomadpete Posted January 23 Posted January 23 41 minutes ago, Grumpy Old Nasho said: She poked the bear by publicly saying Trump will do things differently, implying that her lefty politics is better his politics I didn't see the implcation. Further, she stated the obvious. Mr Trump is proud to be seen as a person who 'does things differently'. And he clearly does do things differently. Folk who admire him would agree with the statement, as would folk who don't admire him. 1 1
Marty_d Posted January 23 Posted January 23 Anyone that thinks that complex problems can have simple solutions is a blithering idiot. Politicians like Trump get where they are by offering simple solutions. Blithering idiots vote for them. Politicians like Wong get where they are by intelligence, hard work, negotiation, diplomacy. Penny Wong is worth a dozen Trumps. (Sorry about the insult Penny - who'd want a dozen Trumps??) 1
Grumpy Old Nasho Posted January 23 Posted January 23 I'm no a fan of the Liberal Coalition either, I've had enough of their threats of two years jail if you don't do what they want you to do, and their lies, and their lack of consideration and downright bastardry. And I certainly have never voted for them.
nomadpete Posted January 23 Posted January 23 (edited) 39 minutes ago, octave said: Someone on here said we should judge Trump by what he does rather than what he says. Now he is president he is doing things that we can judge him for. That might have been me. I was trying to limit my premature negativity. Yes, now he has officially taken control of the nikko, we can start being judgemental. Shall I start a new thread for "Curious acts by political Leaders" ? It might be dominated by a small number of world leaders, but so be it Edited January 23 by nomadpete 2
Grumpy Old Nasho Posted January 23 Posted January 23 8 minutes ago, nomadpete said: And he clearly does do things differently. Differently to what Penny would do I suppose. There's a lack of respect for the election result in her comment. She could have lobbied the Electoral College to change the result to someone else if she felt strongly about it, the EC could've done that if they wanted to, not just for her though, but no harm in trying.
old man emu Posted January 23 Author Posted January 23 4 hours ago, Grumpy Old Nasho said: Someone asked her a question, That's where your whole point falls down. You've told us half the story. What was the question? Without our having that information, we cannot judge the appropriateness of her answer.
octave Posted January 23 Posted January 23 GON I struggle to categorise "Trump will do things differently" as being negative, it surely is neutral. In any job I have been in when one boss leaves and another takes over often the departing boss will make a speech handing over the reins and saying the the new boss "will put their particular mark on the job. GON I assume that you don't think Trump is different from the presidents that came before. It seems that Trump and his supporters are great at name-calling but are amazingly thin-skinned such that an ambiguous comment like Wong's is so distressing. 3
Grumpy Old Nasho Posted January 23 Posted January 23 Actually it was one of those times where I changed channels and only heard her answer. I guess the question might have went. "How will you deal with this Trump administration", or words to that effect. I'll search to see if I can find the question. Her audience perhaps was a bunch of Aussie journalists for her to make a slit of the tongue like that.
Popular Post facthunter Posted January 23 Popular Post Posted January 23 SHE, Penny Wong went there BECAUSE SHE respects the Vote of the American People. (which TRUMP would NOT do at the election before this) Trump foreshadowed it by saying "I will only accept the RESULT, IF I WIN" . ??? THEN he encouraged an Insurrection Tried to arm twist Mike Pence to ignore the LAW. He's the ONE the NOOSE was for. Thats the Current POTUS Folks .Nev 5
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