Can the Victorian government get any worse?

[red750]

Oh, I forgot. The news and interviews are all bullsh*t.  If you donated an embryo to the IVF bank,how you feel about having your progeny raised in prison by a murderer?

[facthunter]

YES .Most of the News/Views is BULL$#!t. .  We deserve BETTER here.  Nev

[Jerry_Atrick]

To quote you:

11 hours ago, red750 said:

. Outcries against the granting have been overruled by the Government.

That is false. The government does not have the legal authority to deny the right.  If they denied the right, they would be overulling the law and is that ones definition of good government? In a country like Australia, it would waste taxpayers' money as such an overulling  would go to the High Court and be promptly thown out.

 

The claim is the Victorian government are bad because they are not yielding to public pressure - not that the mother is bad and should not  have a baby and quie frankly it is biased and not based on fact.

 

Edited November 28 by Jerry_Atrick

[red750]

Whatever. She doesn't deserve kids. Poor little bygger. Imagine filling out forms  Placw of birth?  Prison.

[old man emu]

Nobody has told us the circumstances of the murder. Was it cold-blooded, or a bitch fight that went bad?

 

As for the IVF, most likely there would be no embryo transplant. The woman would have eggs collected and they would be fertilised 'in vitro' (test tube). It is possible that the sperm donor would be known to her, perhaps her partner at the time of the offence, and any child might be placed in his care after the five years.

 

Once again we are going off, half-cocked, without all teh facts.

[Jerry_Atrick]

3 hours ago, red750 said:

Whatever. She doesn't deserve kids. Poor little bygger. Imagine filling out forms  Placw of birth?  Prison.

Again.. this is just a beat up.. place of birth? I don't recall ever putting hospital down. Usually it's Melbourne. Occasionally Footscray, never Footscray hospital.

 

Seriously, why whip oneself into a frenzy? Life is too short to be angry over nothing

[red750]

I'm sorry. Didn't mean to ruffle your sensabilites. Must remember - keep my feelings to myself.

[Jerry_Atrick]

Seriously, it isn't me who  is getting worked up over this.. we can all express feelings.. but let's have a convo about things because life isn't black and white.. 

 

You can still disapprove.. 

[nomadpete]

Its fine to show a feeling about an issue. Its equally fine to debate whatever has been said.

 

Lots of stuff is agreed with. Some stuff is not.

 

That is how discussions work. And the forum is a discussion. Not a place to expect every comment to be automatically cheered on.

 

The very nature of the discussions here has taught me a great deal.

 

 

[facthunter]

The PLACE of Birth is a Suburb, NOT a Street  Address.  Unless you are at sea or in flight.  Nev

[spacesailor]

No ! .

Mine has street & house number , plus  zip/ postcode , town & county ,

Lastly,  country  UK  .

The wife very similar.  IRL .

spacesailor

[Jerry_Atrick]

That's your choice. I have never had to put an address in as a place of birth.. 

[spacesailor]

Not my choice! .

When you think about IT .

I had no choice of what was put on 'my' birth certificate .

Local customs and parents preference. 

spacesailor

 

[onetrack]

My birth certificate only lists the suburb I was born in, which is some 7kms away from where my parents lived. My parents (English and Scottish) birth certificates only list the town or village they were born in.

 

What I found amusing was my Mum and Dads marriage certificate lists Mums birthplace as Lahore - which is in Pakistan, in the Punjab.

 

But she was actually born in a little Scottish village named Lochore - which got its name from a nearby Lake - "Loch Ore".

However, the Scottish pronunciation of Lochore is "La-hore"! Obviously, the registrar didn't clarify the birthplace information!

 

Edited November 30 by onetrack

[Jerry_Atrick]

Timnes have changed in the  UK, too. Neither of my kids birth certificates list the exact address of birth - one London, the other Surrey..

[spacesailor]

Yes it has changed an awful lot.

The King is dead ! .

Long live the Queen .

The Queen is dead . 

Long live King Charles 11 .

spacesailor