AUSTRALIA - Completely CLean, Non- Corrupt Country !

[bexrbetter]

Yep, the Jo & Flo show. I also heard (though it would bear checking) that he had tarmac road all the way out to his place when all else was dirt. And what sticks in my mind was that, if anyone tried to confront him with any sort of criticism, he simply refused to respond or acknowledge it in any way: he wouldn't even begin to engage, just pushed out the bluster and the party line, insisted black was white, up was down..

Please don't mention the lowest taxes, petrol prices, food prices, lowest car rego, public transport, etc .... the cheapest State to live in by far and pretty darn safe to walk the streets at night with police actually out and about walking them as well.

 

Never forget he did a darn good job for the people and actually cared about them. Be as sarcastic as you like but there was a good reason he was Premiere for 20 years and Hawke was rightfully concerned about him and pulled a dirty manoeuvre for the '87 Elections - besides the money for the following slurring campaign,

 

 

[IBob]

Please don't mention the lowest taxes, petrol prices, food prices, lowest car rego, public transport, etc .... the cheapest State to live in by far and pretty darn safe to walk the streets at night with police actually out and about walking them as well.

Never forget he did a darn good job for the people and actually cared about them. Be as sarcastic as you like but there was a good reason he was Premiere for 20 years and Hawke was rightfully concerned about him and pulled a dirty manoeuvre for the '87 Elections - besides the money for the following slurring campaign,

Yep, there was certainly a good reason he was Premiere for 20years:

 

"Bjelke-Petersen's Country (later National) Party controlled Queensland despite consistently receiving the smallest number of votes out of the state's leading three parties, achieving the result through a notorious system of electoral malapportionment that resulted in rural votes having a greater value than those cast in city electorates."

 

 

[Bruce]

Yes Birdseye, I am saying that lack of bottle legislation is evidence of corruption at least in this area.

 

Unless maybe it was put to a fair referendum and defeated. Did that happen where you are?

 

The Northern Territory followed many years after SA . If you have ever visited an aboriginal outstation in the NT you would see why.

 

Now in SA, the deposit is too little and its not on enough things, but it has survived both parties being in government and I bet a lot of bri..er ..donation offers from packaging billionaires.

 

 

[bexrbetter]

Yep, there was certainly a good reason he was Premiere for 20years:

Yeah yaw right, I keep forgetting how squeaky clean Labour and Liberal are and that we have an exclusively 2 Party system today because all the rest are bad, not because the only thing they have ever co-operating on is the dedicated removal of any individual or Party that poses a threat to them, God bless them.

 

 

[Bruce]

Ray Whitrod was briefly the police commissioner for Qld under Bjelke. On his arrival in Qld as an unknown, he paid for a taxi tour of all the illegal brothels and casinos in Brisbane. Weeks later, he brought out the list of their addresses and confronted his senior people with it. He was soon got rid of. ( I heard this from his own mouth at a Baptist Fellowship meeting)

 

For years, I thought this was clear evidence of open corruption in Qld under Bjelke. Now I wonder if those other police were not so bad, maybe they were managing a situation where the wowsers were just another group to be placated and the "approved" places were better than truly underground places would have been.

 

 

[bexrbetter]

On his arrival in Qld as an unknown, he paid for a taxi tour of all the illegal brothels and casinos in Brisbane.

.. and 10 years later I moved to Canberra and was fortunate enough to fall in with "Real Canberrians" (not transient Public Servants), the stories I could tell including the "Working Lady" who claimed to have had 4 PM's including the then current one. The Establishment's owner was a then Senior Police Officer. Pollies and Diplomats were off limits to Police, used to annoy some of the Cops I knew when they pulled them over driving pizzed as maggots - note also that Canberra was 0.08 then compared to everywhere else 0.05, another Polly protection level.

 

Interesting place Canberra if you know the right people, that was back then, may be different now.

 

 

[Bruce]

Here's another one... In South Australia you don't have to pay for a vehicle inspection every year. There are about six better ways to spend the same money to save lives on the road, but most states have succumbed to the pro-inspection rip-off lobby. Not SA, but I know the lobby is trying hard here.

 

Of course the odd accident is attributable to a car which would have been denied a roadworthy certificate. But for the $1000 per eligible car, there are much more effective better things to spend on.

 

 

[Marty_d]

Vehicle inspection every year???

 

The only time you need a vehicle inspection here is if it's unregistered and you want to reregister it, or if it's visibly dodgy. Otherwise you could go your whole life without one.

 

 

[Bruce]

Good news Marty, well Tassy has somebody smart there too. The other states have more corruption on this count.

 

I reckon we run a Sponsordocracy here in Oz. Not a Democracy because you need sponsors to get in, and these sponsors need looking after.

 

 

[pmccarthy]

No annual inspections in Vic.

 

 

[Bruce]

Good news pmc. For our aircraft, I like the idea Turbs said about having volunteer inspectors do the job cost-free.

 

I think as a voluntary measure, RAAus could give this a go. I would be happy to be an inspector ( and attend a course for this) and also to be happy to have my plane inspected. I would hope that the voluntary aircraft showed up as better after some years.

 

What could be the downside?

 

 

[spacesailor]

CORUPTION!

 

And the "NugentHand bank of NSW" .

 

Cheap land to wash the dirty drug money.

 

All with Canberra's blessing, until they found out the were being short changed.

 

They Never caught the CIA operative, or maybe they didn't want to take on the USA:s CIA

 

spacesailor

 

 

[Bruce]

I reckon drugs are part of the corruption thing.. Anyone with the brains to run a deli could work out a system of rewards and new identities etc to make a drug employee a mug not to betray his employer. A loyal mug but a mug anyway. The hardest thing would be to convince the potential betrayers that the cops are not corrupt in this instance.

 

But I don't think the politicians are honestly corrupt, taking envelopes full of cash and stuff. They are just giving the public what the public wants.. prohibition without too much trouble. If I were a drug lord, I would make sure the strident prohibition politicians were anonymously well funded.

 

 

[UltraFlash]

The biggest part of corruption in this country would have to be in the banking sector.

 

I've seen it all over the last 3 years, people being setup to take all their assets/money, a pensioner who can't read or write signed up for a $1m loan (which he never got any money for), banks refusing to let people pay out loans,

 

The ANZ rate rigging scandal, Bankwest risk regrading, CBA predatory lending and now the latest on 4 corners with commonwealth insurance. I'm now keeping all my assets and money as far away from banks as I can.

 

Hopefully a royal commission will follow soon and the members of the 'big 4' organised crime gangs brought to justice.

 

 

[Phil Perry]

One 0f my many ladyfriends ( ! ) is a trader - on A market, can't say which. . . .don't know.

 

We were having a blogchat about the forthcoming financial crash which she and her associates reckon MUST happen soon, since the entire financial industry is built on ultradebt and the money is just numbers on a screen and doesn't really exist. . . .

 

She advised that buying Gold wouldn't be a bad idea, ( back when it was trading at circa £440 per Troy Ounce. .. it's now shot up to over £1200 PTO, in a matter of a few weeks. . . .) but not PAPER gold, ie, a certificate which says you own so much. . . the real stuff. Preferably small ingots and have them securely stored. Gold will always be worth something when paper cash becomes worthless.. . .But you need it in YOUR possession,. . and NEVER EVER place it in a Bank of any description. lying thieving fektards the lot of them.

 

Did Phil buy Gold back then ? Did he 'eck as like. . . . .could't afford to anyway ! Anyhow, I don't actuall KNOW this lady, nor if she is a lady. . .might be a big tattooed fork truck driver for all I know . . .we are all just anonymous usernames on an internet blog. . . . but the insider advice was good, albeit a little illegal ! ! !

 

 

[Bruce]

Yes Phil, a lump of gold in a safe box is a better bet than giving it to some "managers" who can spend all your capital on executive salaries, and quite legally too.

 

 

[IBob]

Funny how folk get fixated on gold?

 

Try looking at silver: you get a slab you could use to club to death your bank manager for the same price as your measly ounce of gold.

 

 

[Bruce]

Yes IBob, and platinum has been a bad investment too. But I personally am amazed at how paper money is hanging in there for so long. What is the backup? Once it was gold, now it is the trust of mugs I guess.

 

 

[UltraFlash]

Because so many people have absolutely no idea what money is, they're too busy worrying who the winner of masterchef will be. Typical magicians trick, put on a distraction so the crowd doesn't see you reaching into their pocket and ripping them off...

 

 

[Phil Perry]

Because so many people have absolutely no idea what money is, they're too busy worrying who the winner of masterchef will be. Typical magicians trick, put on a distraction so the crowd doesn't see you reaching into their pocket and ripping them off...

I agree,. . .distraction theory, seeems to work dunnit ?. . . .I mean, . . .whilst I was watching the Avengers, and Skippy on the telly,. .some nameless larrikins were stealing my entire Country of Birth,. . . . they may well have gotten away with it too as when the big vote comes ( June 23rd ) most of the sheeple will be watching masterchef, or the grreat british bake off, or the X factor . . .and won't bother to get off their collective arisses and go and vote to get it back !

 

Jeeze, we're having a barbie tonite, using every Jeremy Clarkson book in my library as fuel. . . .the bugger just declared for the "Remain" in EU camp. . . . that's another friend I've lost . . .

 

 

[Bruce]

Phil, would you have voted to leave the union if you were a Scot? I reckon the EU thing might be seen as similar, and staying in might be seen as the safe thing. Personally, I would vote to leave.

 

 

[Phil Perry]

Phil, would you have voted to leave the union if you were a Scot? I reckon the EU thing might be seen as similar, and staying in might be seen as the safe thing. Personally, I would vote to leave.

Not being a Scot, I can't answer that really,. . .but since, due to some really soilly legislation called "The Barnett Formula" signed long ago, evry single individual in Scotalnd recieves £1,700 per annum more public spending that do anyone South of the border. Secondly, Wee Nippy ( Nicola Sturgeon ) Alex Salmond and their bunch of evil nasty nationalists whipped up a frenzy and managed to secure 45% of the vote. This was, at the time driven by the fact that the price of North Sea Oil was $14o a barrel,. . . . which ddropped to $28 and is now around $39 PB. They were relying on this to finance their new utopia,. . whilst completely forgetting that this oil belonged not to Scotland, but to the whole UK.

 

If "we" are successful with our OUT vote in June, the Scots have said that they will 'force' another referendum so that they can join the EU as a separate country.

 

Bear in mind that, due to the crazy disparity of electoral boundaries all over the UK, the Scottish Nationalists achieved 56 members of Parliament with a total of around 1.5 Million votes. THEY are allowed to vote in Parliament upon issues which do not concern Scotland, whereas. . . .WE are not allowed to vote on ANYTHING which concerns Scotland, that is up to the devolved Scottish Government in Holyrood. Souns fair enough dunnit ? ( Thanks for that Tony Bliar )

 

The United Kingdom Independence Party (UKIP) which was formed some years ago to get the country out of the EU mess; recieved four million votes, and for that, achieved ONE MP. Crazy ? Whadder you think ?

 

The EU is run by an unelected cabal, whoi cannot be argued with, and cannit be democratically removed. The "Remain" campaign say that it#s best to stay in so that we can influence the EU to the benefit of everyone. Oh Yes ? . . .in the last 20 years, the UK has objected strongly to 720 pieces of major legislation.

 

It was slapped down 720 times. By majority voting of tiny little basket case countries who should not have been allowed to join in the first instance.

 

I never voted for this crap, neither did my Dad. We voted to join the EEC European Economic Community. A trading bloc. We have been lied to by successive Governments, Pollies and Public Servants now for so long, whilst ever closer political union was the master plan all along and they have now admitted that this is; and was always the endgame.

 

There is a whole load more I could say about being shackled at every turn by EU regulations on everything, they make around 1,100 new laws every month and there is nothing which escapes their clutches. These laws supersede UK legislation and no UK courts can overturn anything.

 

Just for a little jocularity, the Lord's prayer has so many words in it ( count 'em if you like ) the EU rules governing the growing, grading, packaging and selling of CABBAGES runs to around 125,000 words.

 

Happy days. . . . . .

 

 

[Bruce]

Yes bureaucracy is the enemy of civilization. Medieval China invented gunpowder, rockets, kites and noodles. Alas for them, they also had an extreme bureaucracy which turned them into a failed state.

 

Europe went through the dark ages with the church acting as the dead hand of bureaucracy. Russia under communism had millions of "nyet men" who made Russia a failed state.

 

In South Australia just yesterday a trucking company gave up trying to establish here because the red tape is even worse than in Victoria.

 

And CASA has free reign to destroy Australia's fledgling aircraft business.

 

There were short periods of enlightenment in some places in history where market forces were more powerful that the bureaucracy and this is where our civilization came from.

 

 

[spacesailor]

Hi Phil & IBob,

 

Gold & Silver, are not as High as the old Tea Chest Liner : TIN.

 

We've thrown it all away thinking it's cheap, but there's, no more at the tin mine.

 

spacesailor

 

 

[spacesailor]

Aussie is so corrupt.

 

We no longer have "elected prime-ministers", so we need a new law,

 

"NO VOTES, NO JOB"

 

But it's

 

NO CHANCE

 

spacesailor