Who is Elon Musk really?

[pmccarthy]

Who is Elon Musk? Where did he come from? Don't accept the story in the media!

 

An alien traveller marooned on planet earth would do the following:

1. Use his superior technical knowledge to make innovations that generated lots of money.
2. Gain control of the media so he could manage the story about himself and limit any leaks about the truth.
3. Build space communication devices that could send a distress signal and, when needed, call down a mother ship.
4. Build political connections to suppress information about alien objects in the sky.
5. Develop rockets that could, eventually, carry him back to the mother ship.

 

This is not a movie script. It is happening.

[old man emu]

I was going to answer by saying that we could find out who Elon Musk is by referring to official records. Could we confirm by checking official records that Elon Reeve Musk was born on June 28, 1971, in Pretoria, South Africa's administrative capital? However, we have been trained to believe that even official records can be changed or created to suit the goals of a plan. The alteration of records is one of the plot devices of Orwell's 1984. So Musk's birth records could be a fiction.

 

We can't rely on the veracity of his parent's birth and citizenship records. We know that Jonathan Kent and Martha Kent found a baby in a space vehicle and raised him as their own child. No one ever seems to have researched Clark's birth records.

 

Post scriptum: I used the analogy of Superman simply as an example of how PMC's idea could be implemented, using a well known, albeit fictional, character.

 

[Grumpy Old Nasho]

He's a genius who knows how to work the system, gotta give him that ... however I would discourage him from attempting to colonize Mars, that's a bit ambitious. He needs to sort out his driverless Teslas first, here on Earth. 

[Jerry_Atrick]

 

[Grumpy Old Nasho]

That was a "my heart goes out to you" gesture, mixed with a snipe at political correctness. A vid I viewed yesterday had about 8 prominent politicians etc performing the same salute, they included Joe Biden.

[facthunter]

Expert Psychologists would provide Factual and interesting answers to these weirdo's make up. Eventually they might out of necessity introduce a Sanity and Mental stability test for Intending Leadership positions. Maybe throw in a Minimum IQ as well. NOW they just BUY their way in..  So much money Wasted in the USA on "Populist Based" selection as distinct from Policies and planning for the future of the ONLY Planet we have. America is divided and will remain so. Nev

Edited Saturday at 11:29 PM by facthunter
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[onetrack]

Who is Elon Musk? The worlds greatest personal greed merchant, who has shafted billions daily to accumulate a level of wealth that simply continues to increase at an astronomical rate, because he knows how to game every system designed to limit massive wealth accumulation. But his accumulated wealth does nothing to help the average American.

 

Even if you buy one of his famed Tesla cars, you're obliged to continue to pay a monthly fee to keep accessing the cars features. What a monstrous scheming rort!! You bought the car and its systems, but you don't really own it, you have to keeping paying "tithes" to the company owner!!

 

John Deere management are stating that within a couple of years, 10% of their income will be from incoming, continually ongoing, "royalties", on their "technologies". Did you want to buy that large tub of Vaseline now, as well, to help ease the gigantic anal insertion?

[nomadpete]

4 hours ago, pmccarthy said:

Who is Elon Musk? Where did he come from? Don't accept the story in the media!

 

An alien traveller marooned on planet earth would do the following:

Really?

 

I suspect that an alien of higher intellect and ability hopefully would not practice all the worst vices of the primitive inhabitants of this third rock from a minor star.

 

PMc your suggestion  offends all us true aliens.

[facthunter]

I've never liked being ALIENATED. Nev

[Marty_d]

As far as I know, I'm the only one on this forum who lives in Aliens Rivulet (ok, it's actually Allens Rivulet, but someone got creative with the road sign).

 

But back to Musk - all I can say is he's a complicated creature.  He's done a lot of good for the climate (whether he meant to or not) by pushing the world towards electric cars, but then throws his money and influence behind the most negative president for the climate... ever.

I think the old saying "Absolute power corrupts absolutely" applies to this duck.

[pmccarthy]

Once he gets the full array into orbit, he will call them down.

[rgmwa]

‘“There’s a thin line between genius and madness”. I think that old saying might apply to Musk.

[Jerry_Atrick]

11 hours ago, Grumpy Old Nasho said:

He's a genius who knows how to work the system, gotta give him that ... however I would discourage him from attempting to colonize Mars, that's a bit ambitious. He needs to sort out his driverless Teslas first, here on Earth. 

Knows how to work the system and does it deftly? Deinitely.. entrepreneurial? Absolutely. Genius? Only in the prior, I would say. Though, these days, that seems to gain far more traction  than actually doing something productive themselves.

 

As I have read so far, his real business success is preying of others, with one exception where we started a stand up night club in universtiy.

 

Like Trump, he had a big leg-up from his super wealthy father, who was quoted once as saying he had so much money he didn't know what to do with it.

 

Paypal was a disaster until his father brought some banking knowledge people in, and got in real programmers. Tesla, SapceX, etc. All started by others, using his father's and then his PayPal money to take over and reclaim as the founder. Let's look at when he has had to reall run a business on his own.. Twitter/X.. How did that go for him.. from the initial offer, to running it, it can only be said to be a disaster.

 

But, that doesn't mean he is stupid, either. He has enough resources to pay people to clean up his constant mess.

 

10 hours ago, Grumpy Old Nasho said:

That was a "my heart goes out to you" gesture, mixed with a snipe at political correctness. A vid I viewed yesterday had about 8 prominent politicians etc performing the same salute, they included Joe Biden.

That's what I initially thought, too.. Except, I hadn't seen Biden and 8 other prominent pollies (BTW, which ones) do it. So I hunted the internet because, you know, even AI generated ones came up.. But none were found. Care to send a link to the vid?

 

I think it is intentional.. it does not mean he is a nazi or a facist.. but as we know, he knows how to work the system.. and at the moment, the system is allowing all this hatred to rise and is doing nothing about it.. He is about getting from the system what he can regardless of its impact, as long as he is OK. He always has been, and he always will..

 

 

[old man emu]

If he'd done that move in Victoria he would have been brought  before a Criminal Court.

[Grumpy Old Nasho]

 

Go straight to 2.58mins

[Jerry_Atrick]

I'm not quite sure what the above video has to do with Musk per se. However, Konstantin is a washed up comedian, who is eloquent, but trying to be the UK's Joe Rogan, despite being of Russian descent.

 

His modus operandi, however, is much the same; cherry picking the facts to suit his agenda. I can't find too much on that James O'Broen show, but to be honest, the editing is crap and it looks to me as if it is taken out of context. The Yvette Cooper response is certainly taken out of context, and reviewing the availabiloty and ease of which kids can get hold of knives is certainly a worthy one as part of a fuller package. Yeah, a kid can nick a parent's knives, but a lot of these knives are assault versions, or conealable - not your garden variety carving knife.

 

@Grumpy Old Nasho - for someone who claims to research the facts and bug pollies, you sure do put one side across. But to help you along, here is Yvette Cooper's parliamentary speech after the conviction of Rudakubana, so as not to prejudice the trial.. something the press, and Farage seems to forget about:

 

Clearly a recognition that there were multiple government department failures and launching an inquiry to work out how to fix it.. That, to me, is a responsible, albeit slow response. However, one has to realise, Rudakubana is a Christian who clearly had a mental health issue which went unchecked and was allowed to easily fall prey to islamic fundamentalist radicalistion - alledgedly (just because he says he was, doesn't mean he was). Now, I am going to give Yvette Cooper the benefit of the doubt - she has just inherited the home office after 13 years of Tory demise and stripping of fundiong of the services required, and sending corproate welfare to their donors. 

 

BTW, my point with Farage and Konstantin is they are laying the blame on this with Islamic fundamentalism when the perpatrator was not Muslim/Islamic, had violent issues well before he would have ben radicalised (if he was or is not using it as an excuse). This appears to be a failing of the previous govenrment by not only investing more into areas of developing needs of the community - i.e. mental health, but actively reduced funding; they reduced the police force by 20,000 officers and the list goes on. So, yeah, there are issues, but I would not rely on Konstantin, nor Farage, nor Rogan for the answers..

 

Of course, we can't iognore Islamic fundamentalism.. I am not sure where Konstantin got his 45,000 active suspects under surveillance - last time I read, MI5 didn't have enough funding to surveill much less. I know from an ex GCHQ worker (now long deceased and operative in the 60s and 70s), that the UK and all states have all sorts of terrorists under surveillance at any one time. Yet, Islamic fundamentalism does appear these days to be in the majority.

 

I don't disagree with all of his video.. there has to be a conversation that does not resile from hard truths.. but they have to be truths and not one sided bigotry. Let's get all the facts out, critically asses them, and then make the decisions.

 

[edit] I forgot to mention.. Studies reveal most lone wol terrorists, such as the Lindt Cafe in Sydney are people with mental illnesses - usualy schizophernia, that latch onto anything that will justify their actions.. .

Edited Sunday at 03:47 PM by Jerry_Atrick

[old man emu]

Back in the early 2000s, there was a spike in the number of knife attacks, mainly, I think, ethnic gang related. So the NSW government beefed up the anti-cutting weapon laws that had been introduced to combat the razor gang wars of 1927-31. Police were issued with metal detector wands. This allowed police to conduct an non-invasive search of a person suspected to be carrying a cutting weapon. I t was just a case of , "you look like a likely suspect. Just stand still for a moment while I wave my magic wand around you.'

 

Of course, back in those Dark Ages, likely suspects knew that it was better to accept than argue. Twenty-five years later, every "who-me?" reckons their Rights far exceed their Responsibilities, so police now have to ask politely for permission to play the Fairy Godmother with the wand. If a person is going to carry a knife, without reasonable cause, then some Rights go out the window.

[red750]

With teenagers these days, it appears the weapon of choice is a machete. 

[facthunter]

I thought it was "Unfollow"?  Nev

[Grumpy Old Nasho]

9 hours ago, Jerry_Atrick said:

I'm not quite sure what the above video has to do with Musk per se.

You only had to go to 2.58 mins to see the salutes displayed by 8 other prominent figures, which is what you asked me to post.

In our old age we all have short memories, I understand that.

[Jerry_Atrick]

Ahhh yes.., photos and not videos.. screen grabs taken out of context to push an agenda.. you believe anything if it fits..

 

https://www.newsweek.com/barack-obama-kamala-harris-nazi-salutes-elon-musk-2019092

 

Quite right about old age and memories

Edited Monday at 01:57 AM by Jerry_Atrick

[octave]

I do not know what Musk's intentions were however fra right-wingers seem to believe it was significant.  It is no secret that Musk is close with people on the extreme right such as AFD which is so far right that even La Pen won't work with them.

 

 

[facthunter]

The title should be WHAT is Elon MUSK?.  Nev

[pmccarthy]

Just checking for anagrams:

 

Lone Skum

Sunk Mole

Sulk Omen

[Grumpy Old Nasho]

57 minutes ago, Jerry_Atrick said:

Ahhh yes.., photos and not videos.. screen grabs taken out of context to push an agenda.. you believe anything if it fits..

You still only had to go to 2.58mins in the vid to view them, and they are exactly the same as what you just posted, except there was only 3 in that Newsweek fact check .... the vid had 8. The vid is where I first saw the pics.