Aussie Federal election 2025

[red750]

14 minutes ago, onetrack said:

no amount of election speeches, or last-minute pork barrelling

Add mudslinging and lying, like all other elections.

[Jerry_Atrick]

I think for the vast majority of the electorate, their mind is rarely changed - takes someone like SFM to repulse people from their normal picks, and even then, many still hang on regardless. If people removed their conditioning and looked at the track records of each of the parties, you could be forgiven for thinking that the parties are not quite the stereotype they portray themselves to be.

 

There was a write up in the FT today where an Egyptian billionaire is quitting the UK because of the removal of non-domiciled status which allows them to avoid paying taxes in the country they earned their income in, and then avoid paying taxes here. However, while the Labour treasurer, Rachel Reeves, is copping the blame for it, it was actually the conservatives that put in place the removal, and it was a vote carried forward by Labour. This billionaire attributed Britain's decline to the conservatives incompetence at handling the economy - which is the opposite of what they are stereotyped as.

[facthunter]

The last "contest" was fact checked. That's what always needs to be Done. Funny how some of the Media don't mention it.  Nev

[old man emu]

1 hour ago, Marty_d said:

LNP have done a preference swap deal with Pauline Hanson

If you are talking about the voting for the Senate, then your comment might only apply to your State. We would have to see if the same pattern exists in other States and Territories to see if the LNP did the same with One Nation across the whole country. However, it seem logical that the Parties of conservative nature would want to keep votes on that side of the divide. 

[Marty_d]

37 minutes ago, old man emu said:

If you are talking about the voting for the Senate, then your comment might only apply to your State. We would have to see if the same pattern exists in other States and Territories to see if the LNP did the same with One Nation across the whole country. However, it seem logical that the Parties of conservative nature would want to keep votes on that side of the divide. 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-23/pauline-hanson-one-nation-preferencing-deal/105200748

[old man emu]

Now, it appears the last two weeks (of the Australian election campaign) will be obscured by the funeral and succession of the only other man on Earth more famous than the first. And — for good measure — the funeral will be attended by both.

 

Wouldn't it be great if they could arrange a double funeral?

[spacesailor]

I've just counted , six popes have died in my lifetime. 

I must count the Royal's next ! . But do you count the " abdicated king '' .

No missed . So only three .

spacesailor

[Jerry_Atrick]

This popped up in my YT feed. He admits he is biased to Labor, but if you want a summary of all the policies thus far of ALP, LNP, and GRN, then it seems pretty unbiased, and take your own opinion on them.

 

[nomadpete]

Posted our votes in yesterday.

I made sure of my preferences by voting Under The Line - as I have strong political opinions.

[facthunter]

We need more "thinking" Voters like you. I think I will wait till a lot closer to the date though.  Nev

[spacesailor]

I looked at the form ,a bunch of eight names without affiliations. 

So had to google them , as I wasn't the only one asking " who is  Nicholas Matzen " .

Never heard of him before.  

spacesailor

[octave]

Well, we voted this morning.  We were discussing the popularity of early voting, which a large percentage of the population seems to like.   At the polling booth, there are signs listing the acceptable reasons for voting early.  At no point were we asked if we were eligible. It seems to me that in practice, it doesn't matter.  I think the days of having 1 day in which to vote are outdated. Given that many more people work on weekends these days, a voting window of one day seems a little restrictive.

 

Rather than maintaining the fiction that voting early is only for people who would be overseas or otherwise unavailable to vote, perhaps the voting window could be one or two weeks, and political campaigns could cease before this voting period.

 

I get the idea that significant announcements in this present campaign might be made after my vote, however, I don't tend to vote on individual promises that may or may not be kept anyway.  I tend to vote on a candidate's philosophy.   I am, and have always been, progressive, therefore, I am unlikely to vote for a party whose values are conservative.

[red750]

Did you get a democracy sausage?

[octave]

6 minutes ago, red750 said:

Did you get a democracy sausage?

Nah, not offered but I am not particularly a "sausage man"       In and out as quickly as possible.   Another observation is that it seems to me that most people don't take "how to vote" material from the party people outside the booth.  I haven't done this for many, many years.  I used to take a brochure from the party or candidate I wanted to vote for and then one from all the others so as not to signal my vote.   We did our research before we went, and I suspect this is what many people are doing.

Edited 12 hours ago by octave

[Jerry_Atrick]

43 minutes ago, octave said:

Nah, not offered but I am not particularly a "sausage man"       In and out as quickly as possible.   

That tells us all you certainly are not a sausage man 🙂

 

I obviously can't vote in this election (Son was disappointed not to be there to vote), but I would like to leave it to polling day unless impossible. The reason is because, sort of like the QLD election, it would give me time for some crap to be uncovered, which may sway my vote. Although, there are elections wherer my mind woudl be made up well in advance (this is one of them) and it would take an awful lot of crap to come out before I would change my vote. 

 

 

[facthunter]

Do what is normally "undecided" people vote  early. I suspect some do. I think some just like to have it  "out of the Way" so they can think of other things. I'm probably more concerned with politics than most as I've even from a very young age been aware of the Dangers of BAD government having been born at the beginning of 1940 into a World War situation. Nev

[spacesailor]

" Bad government " .

Hope you meant, " the British declaration of war with germany  ".

spacesailor

[Jerry_Atrick]

I'd be really surprised if there were that many undecided voters who were really not forming an opinion at this stage, except for apathy or intentionally not casting a ballot for anyone. But, I have been surprised before.

 

If I were polled on who would get my primary, secondary, and tertiary vote, what would I say? I could say which parties (or independents) I intend to, or I could say undecided. That's because, I am fairly sure which way I would vote, but I am still amenable to changing it, based on anything matrertial coming up, which could happen. I would probably lean to say the way I intend at this stage, but that understates my undecidedness. Or I could say I am undecided, and that understates they way I vote.

 

Politics has traditionally been rusted on, crusties, or whatever being the majority of voters. Sure, they will never change their mind so they should just vote whe in convenient to them in the voting window. Then there are those that will swing their votes - some with difficulty, and some with ease.