European Union "Divorce" case coming soon,. . .

[Phil Perry]

A young American lad, gong by the Youtube name of 'Styxenhammer' who is old beyond his years but still talks a lot of commonsense. . . . AND. . .I 'm glad he has a shirt on tonight,. . .I really DO wish he wouldn't do these videos 'unshirted'. . . He annoys a lot of people worldwide, which is a bit odd to me,. . .as he DOES tend to talk sense, with a lot of information to back it up. . . ..it makes me feel bad since both ME and my DAD have no chest hair. . . . .but that is another story. . . . ( Probably in Dad's genes ? ? ? Wifey often asks. . . . .)

 

 

[nomadpete]

C'mon Phil. Save us the trouble of watching yet another YouTube clip. Give us the guts of it. Even with his shirt on, he's gonna exceed my attention span....

 

 

[Marty_d]

So we go from Brexit to Sexit!

Do you write for the Daily Mail Jerry? They got into a bit of strife for putting a pic of Sturgeon and May on the front page and discussing their legs in great detail.

 

Oh, . . .and the exit meme for the Jocklanders, is actually 'Scotzit'

...based on what happens to their skin after too many deep fried Mars bars... (as the great man says, I'll get me 'at)

 

 

[Marty_d]

For those who say the ABC is not impartial...

 

Leigh-on-Sea locals on-board for Brexit after 'disaster' of EU

 

 

[bexrbetter]

For those who say the ABC is not impartial...

I've never had a bad word to say about the GayBC.

 

 

[Phil Perry]

BBC favourite word pair, used for the last few months is. . . ( wait for it. . .) 'DESPITE BREXIT'.

 

Inserted into nearly every report of some industry or service doing well or better. . . they obviously send 'Script card' notices to all news presenters and reporters. . .Including the BBC 'Parrots' at SKY, and Channel 4. 'News' . . . . the last one,. . although still in occasional use is . . . 'SO CALLED' ie, 'So Called Islamic State'. . .

 

I've never had a bad word to say about the GayBC.

Of course you haven't. . .goodness me, it's a National Treasure. . . .

 

 

[Phil Perry]

Do you write for the Daily Mail Jerry? They got into a bit of strife for putting a pic of Sturgeon and May on the front page and discussing their legs in great detail.

 

 

...based on what happens to their skin after too many deep fried Mars bars... (as the great man says, I'll get me 'at)

I always thought that this mars bar business was a load of bollox Marty, until early last year; the 'Sun' tabloid funpaper actually printed a list of Fish and Chip shops, mainly in Glasgow, who will deep fry ANY chocolate confectionery of your choice, Anyone for a Snickers and chips ? . . .or maybe a 'Toblerone' for the arty farty types, and of course Gorbals dwelling Swiss bankers. . .

 

 

[bexrbetter]

'DESPITE BREXIT'.

Condescending bigots.

 

They are their own worst enemies, the irony is they are the ones that scream equality for all the loudest - as long as you tow their line.

 

 

[Marty_d]

Condescending bigots.

They are their own worst enemies, the irony is they are the ones that scream equality for all the loudest - as long as you tow their line.

"Toe" their line, you uneducated oik.

 

 

[Marty_d]

I always thought that this mars bar business was a load of bollox Marty, until early last year; the 'Sun' tabloid funpaper actually printed a list of Fish and Chip shops, mainly in Glasgow, who will deep fry ANY chocolate confectionery of your choice, Anyone for a Snickers and chips ? . . .or maybe a 'Toblerone' for the arty farty types, and of course Gorbals dwelling Swiss bankers. . .

I've seen it first hand, in Edinburgh... actually here's a pic of our German friend Frauke tucking in... (I wasn't game!)

 

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[facthunter]

Overheated oil isn't for eating if you want to enjoy flying or building a plane. If you have a strong oriental accent you might express a wish to fry a plane. Nev

 

 

[bexrbetter]

. If you have a strong oriental accent you might express a wish to fry a plane. Nev

That is Wong in so many ways....

 

"Toe" their line, you uneducated oik.

I wasn't actually asking for examples.

 

 

[Phil Perry]

'Wong on so many Revels ? . . .OH, Wait,. . .'Revels' are choccies in a bag too. . . can't win. . . .

 

 

[Phil Perry]

Oh NO ! Not 'DESPITE BREXIT ' again. . . .!

 

This little gem found on a 'Parliamentary Tittle - Tattle' blogsite called <order-order.com> Guido Fawkes ( AKA Paul Staines, the Irish pollytickle journoe. . . .)

 

 

Siemens U-Turns, Now Talking Up Brexit Opportunities

 

 

Siemens is Europe’s biggest manufacturing firm and employs 15,000 people in the UK. During the referendum the company was a paid-up member of Project Fear, sending out doom-mongering statements threatening to pull investment from Britain in the event of a Leave vote:

 

“Brexit would disrupt the economy in the short-term and we believe that uncertainty about the UK’s future relationship with the EU could have more significant and negative long-term effects… [this] could make the UK a less attractive place to do business and may become a factor when Siemens is considering future investment here.”

 

Yesterday, Siemens chief executive Joe Kaeser met Theresa May at Downing Street where he said he was “confident and optimistic” about the “big opportunities” in Brexit Britain:

 

“There is no reason not to invest tomorrow, if there is a demand and a commitment from the customer. I am willing – and the company is willing to invest – further. There are more opportunities than risks for us.”

 

Who’dathunkit? . . . . . . .

 

 

 

https://order-order.com/201... ( If you're sad enough to wanna read the BTL comments ) Warning !. . . commenters on this site can be a little 'Sweary'. . .and the Men are even worse. . .

 

 

[Phil Perry]

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NO NIGEL . . .YOU DID IT !

 

This bloke has contested and lost several By-Elections . . and has been fighting the EU and their feckwittery for 20 years, including several years as leader of UKIP in the European Parliament... . .without him, there is no doubt at all that referendum would never have happened . . . who wants to be surgically connected to a group of thieving conniving crooks whose books / accounts have not been signed off at all for fourteen years ?. . .

 

He left a superbly remunerated job as a commodities Broker on the London Metal Exchange purely to do SOMETHING about the way the EU was transforming from a free trade bloc ( The EEC ) into the unelected and unassailable EUSSR . He has suffered $hit and incredible media opprobrium for all this time. . . . The Best Prime Minister we Never had in the UK. . .

 

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[Phil Perry]

KING NIGEL THE VIII. . . .!

 

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[bexrbetter]

The Best Prime Minister we Never had in the UK. . .

Most people are good at some things, few are good at everything, identifying and fighting problems isn't the same as curing those same problems.

 

It's an emotional time and one should keep one's head level while considering people's attributes.

 

 

[Phil Perry]

Most people are good at some things, few are good at everything, identifying and fighting problems isn't the same as curing those same problems.

It's an emotional time and one should keep one's head level while considering people's attributes.

I agree,. . .. but, in order to CURE problems, or at least TRY to do this. . .you need POWER . . OR,. .have so many people in agreement with you that those who possess the Power, cannot ignore you.. . ?

 

 

[Phil Perry]

C'mon Phil. Save us the trouble of watching yet another YouTube clip. Give us the guts of it. Even with his shirt on, he's gonna exceed my attention span....

He does explain the Coudenhove-Kallergi plan rather well though. . . . both Angela Merkel, and Jean Claude Juncker have been awarded the C-K prize for immigration philosophy, which all seems to be going so wrong at the moment. . . He says that Richard C-K and his original plan to Integrate many cultures together in Europe was not intended to be in any way evil, but he didn't account for the obvious fact that many people do not wish such integration, nor to have their traditions diluted or disposed of. . .especially when the method of dilution had such culturally opposing viewpoints. . . and that the whole thing has been hijacked by. . . 'Others' for their own 'One World' government / Big corporate purposes. . .'Follow the Money' should be the clarion call. . .

 

 

[Phil Perry]

"Toe" their line, you uneducated oik.

Oh I dunno Marty,. . .the MSM DO seem to keep Towing their happy catchphrases about . . .

 

 

[Phil Perry]

A good piece by the gorgeous 'Viv' Evans for UKIP Daily, An interesting angle on Industrial 'PeopleTrafficking' of African migrants into Europe. .

 

http://www.ukipdaily.com/sl...

 

 

[Jerry_Atrick]

Au Contraire Monseiur. . .I won't fall over at all Sir ! I share a table on a regular basis in both pubs and eateries with some 'Remainers' . . .I'm quite happy to state my position, and not walk on eggs. If folks disagree with me, I don't kick them in the nuts NOR eject my teddies at near VNE from the perambulator either. . . . FCS,. . .if we ALL agreed on EVERYTHING. . . . there would be no further need for discussion forums like this one. . . . and others. . . . this will only happen when the Religion / Science / Body Politik is forever settled to everyone's accord ?

( Oh, . . .and the exit meme for the Jocklanders, is actually 'Scotzit' BTW - Well,. . .it IS on some 'Other' forums I visit. . . ! )

 

I gather that at a recent meeting in Europe, between Nicola Sturgeon ( AKA 'Wee Nippy' ) and Theresa May. . .I think it might have been in Germany,. . May told Sturgeon something like Fekkenoffenhausen - you're not getting a Scotzit referendum AGAIN. . .until the Art50 negotiations are done. . . )

Just catching up on the thread as I have been away a lot and when at home busy as a beaver; typing on a phone keyboard is not great; reasom for short replies to other threads. Anyway, to clarify my assertion that Phil Perry may have to pick him up off the floor, I meant in surprise rather than disagreement - there aren't too many people from these fair isles nor the rest of Europe that want a truly federal state. Indeed, if we all agreed on things, life would no doubt be easier, but a hell of a lot more boring...

 

Jerry atrick you inviting Turnbull over there sheeet he's on the bus along with bishop Barnaby lambie and a gaggle of greens Andrews you keep em neil

Oi Storchy! Steady on, ol' boy. Although, in the spirit of free trade, we'll pack our sponging parastical pollies off to Aus - Hmmm.. I think I have go the hang of international trade negotiations...

 

Do you write for the Daily Mail Jerry? They got into a bit of strife for putting a pic of Sturgeon and May on the front page and discussing their legs in great detail.

...based on what happens to their skin after too many deep fried Mars bars... (as the great man says, I'll get me 'at)

Alas, even writing for the Daily Wail would be a better job than I have now. I recall the controversy, but didn't actually see the photo or really pay too much attention to it. Anyway, I am guessing the the caption was something like, "Nice leg, shame about her face!"

 

(I permanently wear me hat - saves time finding it on the way out...)

 

 

[Phil Perry]

Just came across this article by David Bannerman, a UK MEP ( Member of the European Parliament ). It mostly substantiates what a large number of us already believe.

 

The leaks that have emerged from EU Commission president Jean-Claude Juncker since his dinner with Theresa May at Downing Street last week confirm what any realistic observer has known since last June. Juncker & Co are afraid. Very afraid.

 

I can agree with the president that Theresa May inhabits a different galaxy, but he is looking through the wrong end of the telescope; it is she who is firmly grounded in the mortal world of realpolitik, while the EU leadership at every level lives in an ethereal cosmos of inert gases disappearing up its own black hole.

 

First, ask any seasoned negotiator about how best to conduct the process of finding a mutually desirable agreement, and they will tell you that, when you walk in to the meeting, you need to know what would make you give up on the talks and walk out again. Theresa May has already worked that out and it scares Juncker and his chief negotiator Michel Barnier.

 

Second, if the negotiations are in the public eye, then it is often the case that you will be speaking to a number of audiences with different priorities. At home, the British people will be concerned about democratic accountability for what they voted for and the economic prospects that can be secured. Internationally, our friends and rivals will be looking to secure new partnerships or exploit weaknesses.

 

And while across the table our former EU colleagues will fear losing face, they will also be aware of two huge risks – precipitating by their own intransigence the collapse of the European Project and delivering unemployment to thousands of Europeans whose jobs depend on a harmonious outcome.

 

It is to address these competing interests that May made it plain in her Lancaster House speech what her main objectives are and that she is prepared to walk away if she does not get them. Unlike the EU, which is still mired in the unproductive language of “punishment”, the Prime Minister has therefore defined in general terms what a bad deal is and it is now the detail and the process (such as the timeline) that she wants to be worked out.

 

A bad deal would mean failing to secure control of our borders so that economic migration is determined by the skills on offer rather than what country a person comes from. A bad deal would mean leaving EU institutions to control any of our taxes, regulations and laws rather than ensuring our politicians are accountable for them again. And a bad deal would involve facing a continuing bar bill for drinks we never ordered or the stale croissant we will never eat.

 

When we leave the club, we should not continue to pay a membership fee, or the pensions of staff that are no longer our responsibility, but we can of course pay the green fees as a guest when we choose to access Erasmus or other such facilities.

 

Leaving without a deal does not unduly worry me for I have confidence in Britain’s prospects for increasing trade in growing markets rather than relying on the stagnating Eurozone.

 

The people that are worried about “no deal” are the Spanish fishermen who can kiss goodbye to any agreed access to our fishing waters; it is the German car manufacturers who could see themselves priced out of their lucrative market; and it is the French food and drink producers who know only too well we can turn instead to the New World and developing nations in a heartbeat.

 

Even when it comes to both parties facing a so-called cliff edge without a deal, we have the advantage of a parachute, while the EU does not. We will be free to strike our own advantageous free trade agreements with countries like India – preparing many in advance and grandfathering existing ones, such as the one with South Korea. The EU economy will be stuck behind its protectionist walls, too compromised by having to manage the competing interests of 27 member states to nimbly secure new agreements of its own.

 

Yes British businesses will have to face some tariffs, but with sterling down since the referendum, these are of less significance than opponents suggest. We should also remember that under WTO rules, the EU cannot single out the UK for unusually punitive tariffs – they must be the same as they are for the US, China and Japan.

 

Of course no deal will be called a hard Brexit, or even an extreme Brexit, but it would result in Britain operating in a way no different to most other Western countries in terms of control of economic, political and social affairs. And ironically, because a hard Brexit would result in a hard border between England and an independent Scotland, it actually makes Scottish independence less likely than a soft Brexit.

 

'No deal' is not in the wrong galaxy. If it comes to it, why have cotton when you can have silk?

 

 

[Phil Perry]

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Hmmm. . .I seem to remember the Jermanz ( The Core and Prime controllers of the EU ) saying this a couple of times in the past. . .that really Didn't work out very well for them those times. . . . .

 

[Phil Perry]

Watching the Marine Le Pen / M. Macron televised pre-election debtate. . .Oh dear, Macron has lost it several times. . .he is up against a professional politician, and he has no experience of politics whastsoever. . . .he's already called her a 'Liar' 17 times, and called her 'Stupid' 11 times .. . the Moderators don't seem to have the balls to intervene ! ! ! . this debate is 'Loaded' against Le Pen, for the benefit of those watching it who do not speak French.

 

M. Macron's translator is really sharp and quick, and follows the mood of his speech. Le Pen's translator is slow and haltingly sluggish, he sounds like he's just returned from a heavy afternoon at the wine bar, and delivers his translation in a dull monotone. Still, We British, non French speakers are not involved in the voting. But I am hoping that Le Pen wins it against all the stacked odds, as Macron is a Bilderburg / Soros / Big Banks sockpuppet pulled out of nowhere and heavily financed as the 'Choice' of the establishment to maintain the status quo. . .

 

In parallel with this the BBC and SKY news pundts are waniking themselves into a joyous frenzy rather like a sack full of Benobo chimpanzees high on Columbian marching powder . . .

 

We shall know by Monday who prevails..