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8 hours ago, old man emu said:

Did you read the fine print in the ad?

Nah, who needs fine print?

But its such a bargain.

If you are quick you can get two for the price of one!

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Posted
6 minutes ago, facthunter said:

It's all the additives in chicken that makes them grow bigger.  Nev

 

Facthunter, here I go again!

 

One has to define what you mean by "additives". What facthunter might be referring to is the idea that hormones are the additives which improve growth rates. Steroids and hormones have not been used in Australia's meat chicken industry for more than 60 years and antibiotic treatment was kept to an absolute minimum. Hormone use in meat chickens was outlawed in Australia decades ago.

 

ACMF deputy executive director, Dr Kylie Hewson, said,  "A really long time ago, back in the 50s and 60s, some people in the industry did trial using steroids or hormones to grow chickens bigger. What they quickly realised was that it was a lot more effective to use selective breeding to breed the traits they wanted in meat chickens." We have bigger chickens which are better at converting food to meat through genetic improvement and research into creating feed from which the chicken can take a higher percentage of nutrients.

 

 

The permissible additives in chicken feed include vitamins, minerals and antibiotics. These things can be added to the raw ingredients for the feed in order to bring the nutritional value of the finished feed up to that of levels determined in scientifically controlled research. My final year thesis in Animal Nutrition involved a study of the addition of a vitamin to chicken feed in order to overcome a nutritional condition in chicks which caused them to drop dead if stressed.  That was fifty years ago. You can imagine how much better modern feed formulations are today than what they were then, after that many years of research. Don't forget that commercial poultry growers need just about every gram of nutrient in the feed to be converted into edible meat. It's an economic necessity.

 

I mentioned antibiotics as well. Their purpose is to mainly to promote the development of gut flora which aids the conversion of feed to meat and fat in much the same way we take probiotics to keep our gut flora healthy. Those antibiotics rarely cross the gut wall and so get into the meat we eat, so they are not a problem for us. Also some antibiotics are used as a preventative measure against thing like bird flu or other microbial agents which make the chicken sick resulting in poor food conversion.

 

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In the 40's . We English from tthe North were told to use " iodised salt " to help against 

' Derby neck ' ( Goitres ) .

now we have " foliate " added to our flour. 

But

 Do we need poisonous " fluoridation " of our water .

my G Grandchildren have teeth as bad as ever  ! Full of cavities & fillings. 

Dosed from birth with that " wonder " medication . We have to have ! .

spacesailor

 

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24 minutes ago, spacesailor said:

 

my G Grandchildren have teeth as bad as ever  ! Full of cavities & fillings. 

Dosed from birth with that " wonder " medication . We have to have ! .

spacesailor

 

Do they brush their teeth twice a day, floss, go to the dentist for a checkup and clean every 6 months and not eat too much candy?

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With the availability of other sweeteners for soft drinks, the effects of sugary solutions on teeth is reduced. The sugar is a nutrient for bacteria, which excrete all sorts of chemicals which can damage teeth.

 

However, these drinks are fizzy. The chemical reaction between carbon dioxide and water produces carbonic acid, a weak acid. Carbonic acid is responsible for the acidity in fizzy drinks. That is what does the damage to the teeth. Also these drinks contain phosphoric acid, which also damages teeth. 

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Phosphoric acid is a substantial acid ingredient in carbonated drinks, and is by far, the most destructive acid on teeth. I have to confess, I was a Coke addict from a young age, and no-one gave me advice to avoid drinking it. As a result, my teeth suffered severe decay, and I had to have a large number of teeth removed and have dentures fitted, when I was still in my late teens.

Even then, no-one told me to stop drinking Coke. I didn't stop drinking it until I was about 40, and I rarely touch carbonated drinks today.

 

You're lucky if you can reach 70 and still have all your teeth, simply because of the level of acidic additives in our food today. Some people simply have good teeth, I don't think our family have good teeth genes. I'm jealous of those who have near-perfect teeth, the young lass who is my dentist, has a perfect stunning set of teeth, she's obviously obsessed with good oral care.

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