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[red750]

[Jerry_Atrick]

I am thinking photoshop or similar are involved in that one.. Well, I hope, anyway

[ClintonB]

Could be Victorian, 

that stupid use left lane to turn right nearly killed me as a young driver. I Got of the FEERY, and drove north to go to NSW,

I followed the arrows in the celica, pulled to the furthest left lane and turned right across 3 lanes both ways,  had to floor it to not get smashed. Nobody warned me you have to wait for the lights to change the other way. Not a good start to the trip.🙄

[facthunter]

Pays to know how it works. Melbourne's trams WORK and shift a lot of people. but  can be a nuisance in some streets. They are free in the central part of Melbourne.  Nev

[red750]

The procedure is simple. Enter the intersection in the left lane. Cross the intersecting tram lines and pull as far left as possible. Wait for the lights to change and complete your turn. No trams coming from behind you are delayed, or vehicles behind, if you stop to let trams pass.

[facthunter]

I think there's an overhead sign approaching those intersections showing how to do it.. They have tram lines going both ways. The number of such intersections not large. Years ago you had to know which ones when you DID your licence test.  Nev

[red750]

2 hours ago, facthunter said:

I think there's an overhead sign approaching those intersections showing how to do it..

This is the sign. The cross street is where the van is approaching the tram.

 

 

[octave]

 

[spacesailor]

In ' normal ' traffic flow , the right turn is from the Right lane & the through traffic either waits or

Goes to the left . No problem here .

spacesailor

 

[facthunter]

You have how many, TRAMS? Nev

[octave]

Apparently, hook turns used to be widespread in the 1930s (even in Sydney)

 

The history of hook turns – why does Melbourne have them?

[spacesailor]

I believe Burramattagal ( Parramatta ) has cancelled it's trams ! , 

'hopefully ' . 

What a waste ,  to even Think of going back to those relics of yesteryear   .

Eora ( Sydney ) dumped the " monorail " ' tram '  years ago .

spacesaillor

Edited July 23, 2023 by spacesailor

[octave]

I don't know about Sydney however trams in Melbourne CBD are great.   You can travel quickly and efficiently around town and it is totally free within the CBD. Also much more pleasant than a bus.

[spacesailor]

But only if you are near Those tramlines. 

Or , catch a bus to the nearest tram station-thing .

Do they have car parking , at tram- stations. 

Like our railway stations, with their large & Free'  commuter car parks ' .

spacesailor

 

[facthunter]

You'd better stay in Toongabbie Space. Other places are different and the latest trams in Melbourne are as modern as any place I know . In the CBD they are on every second  street, almost. You don't go to a tram station.  It doesn't work that way. They go past the train stations and you can catch a train if you wish. . Sydney's Rail is probably better when it's running but it was good even in the 50's.  Nev

[old man emu]

I've used the Light Rail in Sydney a couple of times. It was handy to be able to park the car for free in a suburban street and then relax on the way into the CBD. Maybe next week when I'm in Sydney I'll take the run from the CBD to La Perouse. The Light Rain along Anzac Parade (a major inter-suburban route) doesn't seem to have badly affected motor vehicle traffic flow. (Mind you, the delays in constructing it are going to cost the State Government a motza in compensation to businesses along the route.

[octave]

Space the way we use trams is this. We live in Geelong. We could drive into the city however it can take longer than the train and parking is expensive. A train takes 55 minutes (75km)   Once in the city. if we have many different places to go unless we choose to walk (which we usually do) we would just hop on a tram.  As an example, I have a specialist appointment on Wednesday in Elizabeth Street. I could drive but would probably need to set off early in case the traffic is bad. I would have to go into a highrise car park and pay.      Instead, I will hop on the Vline (I think somewhere around $4) concession fare). Once in the city, if I do not want to walk I can jump on a tram which is literally at the door of the station.  If I want to go anywhere else in town I can hop on the appropriate tram for free (within the CBD) 

 

Many inner suburbs are served by the tram network. No, they don't tend to have car parks at tram stops however the same applies to busses.  

[spacesailor]

OME

Try catching a train to Bondi Beach. 

It's a hellv'a walk .

I tried it with kids & bags , for the day at the  beach .

spacesailir

[old man emu]

2 minutes ago, spacesailor said:

Try catching a train to Bondi Beach.

Ya shoulda gone to Cronulla. It's only 350 metres from train to surf.

[facthunter]

  Stay at home and get under the hose. IF you go to the beach you are as hot as ever by the time you get back there..  Nev

[pmccarthy]

The tram to Bondi beach did a steep descent in a left hand turn at high speed, with a cut on one side. Hence “shot through like a Bondi tram”.

[red750]

Spacey, take a look at the attached map of Melbourne's tram network. At least in the somewhat inner suburbs, you are more likely closer to a tram than a train station. Outer suburbs use the train and there is usually free parking available. As for the tram their stops are more or less at every traffic light, and on longer runs, between traffic lights. Many stops now have raised platforms for disabled access. If you are not close to a tram stop, there are busses which will take you to one.

 

Tram network map.

 

 

[red750]

Modern tram interior.                                           Tram exterior

 

[Jerry_Atrick]

@spacesailor, Sydney does appear to regret tearing up its tram network; not sure the monorail was a good replacement: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3389865/The-historical-pictures-make-Sydneysiders-livid-1930s-pictures-showing-trams-running-George-Street-torn-bringing-again.html. The tram network moved  around 1m people/day in Sydney.  Now, the buses result in this:

"'Currently, on every weekday morning, more than 1,600 buses enter the CBD, causing congestion and lengthy delays. CBD streets simply cannot cope with the extra buses needed to meet Sydney's forecast growth,' he said.  "

 

Now, for $2.1bn, you have the light rail, but it is not a patch on thed tram system that was, and still have the buses and now no monorail. I don't knw the geogpraphy of Sydney that well, but barring geogrpahica/geological impediments, if demand to get the tram closer to the beach was there, it probably would have eventuated. A lot of the tram network in Mlebourne has expanded over the years, particularly to the east and north east.

 

Most major European cities also have trams and they are a dream; cities are starting to lose their reliance on cars. Yes sometimes people go shopping and end up carryng large bags so will need a car, or these days, organise home delivery. But cities without cars, become much more pleasant and inhabitable.

 

Aiming to be back in Aus at the end of Q3/early Q4 this year; heading to Melbourne as I don't want to have a car and the tram network allows me to get across twon easily, as well as into the city. The trains work well, too (but I always liked Sydney's trains better - esp those double deckers). Even if I want to go flying, I can catch the 59 tram to airport west and walk 10 - 15 mins to Essendon (I am a GA pilot).

 

When I need a car, I will hire one. 

 

[Old Koreelah]

12 hours ago, pmccarthy said:

The tram to Bondi beach did a steep descent in a left hand turn at high speed, with a cut on one side. Hence “shot through like a Bondi tram”.

As I recently posted, the old Bondi Tram Terminal is visible from my bed. Here it is from above (the one with roof windows):