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[spacesailor]

The ' weight loss medication ',  is being stopped for those without ' diabetes ' .

 

The reason given is lack of stock .

spacesailor

 

[nomadpete]

16 hours ago, spacesailor said:

The ' weight loss medication ',  is being stopped for those without ' diabetes ' .

 

The reason given is lack of stock .

spacesailor

 

Also, the medicated weight lost always comes right back when the user stops taking the pills - which makes it a total waist of time.

 

It would be better for fat people to buy a tapeworm.

[spacesailor]

BUT the same applies. 

Remove that " tapeworm " & the fat comes back ! .

It's the same as ' dieting ' " eat to satisfy " , & the weight jumps up immediately. 

Deadly game of  " keep obesity away " easier said than doing it .

Got my weight down to 83 kilograms now back up to 89.1 kilos .

Another dose of ' laxatives ' , she'll be right mate ' .

The Romans ate for hours per sitting , & would leave the table to ' regurgitate ' the food , 

to make room tor more .

( no refrigeration! Had to be earen while fresh ) .

space.sailor

 

[nomadpete]

My parents had a very successful way to stay slim.

 

They mostly ate what they could grow, and they lived nearly an hour from any food shops.

In spite of smoking all their lives, they never ate a lot, but didn't suffer malnutrition either.

[old man emu]

An old dieting tip was to push your chair away from your plate. Nowadays, it's 'don't drive into the drive-through'. Maybe every fast food outlet should be required to display this sign at its entrance:

[spacesailor]

" push your chair away "  .

Only if your dog cleans up your droppings . LoL

My cat refuses to do any house work .

her food has to be served in her dish .

Or I get the evil stare .

spacesailor

Edited December 23, 2024 by spacesailor
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[nomadpete]

My cat was a snob. He only ate from a cut crystal bowl. He even brought a mouse in and put it in the bowl to eat later.

[ClintonB]

WTF is wrong with the general public.

I just missed a phone call, my wife said check it as the nursing home her parents are in couldn't get her on phone and mine is back up number. 

I hit redial on number,

Bloke starts saying " I'm just got into Tamworth and"

I knew straight away it was a work call and he couldn't be bothered to read the website where my number came from that states I have relocated 300km away.

I just said "mate it's Christmas day for hecks sake" and hung up.

I like making money, but what kind of moron believes a workshop is open on that one holiday you spend with family.

Am I wrong to think that's how things should be.

 

[onetrack]

No, unless it's a major emergency, and lives and peoples safety are at stake. As the old saying goes, "Lack of planning on your behalf, doesn't make for an emergency on my behalf".

[ClintonB]

I don't really worry about any other public holidays. But this is my main one with people I want to be around. I can't think of any real emergency in a caravan on holidays that can't wait. Or the fire brigade should be called to cool the chassis down after it finishes burning.

Probably didn't check his fridge or ac for months and took it the the hottest, driest place he could find to spend summer.

The 6 P's counts in most things in life, just like our instructors in the military and flying taught us..

 

[Bruce Tuncks]

Nomad, your posting is hard to disagree with, but why did you say "avoid weight-loss drugs"

[Bruce Tuncks]

AND, there is a song from out of the 'fifties which blames " my two amigos, Nick Otine and Al Kahol"

[old man emu]

37 minutes ago, Bruce Tuncks said:

why did you say "avoid weight-loss drugs"

They are a crutch. The thing that you are trying to do when on a weight loss regime is to train yourself into adopting new eating habits. Your excess weight is simply due to getting your intake to output ratio too far to the intake side. In our modern society, that's mainly due to overconsumption of valueless energy in the form of the various carbohydrates and fats. 

 

The real purpose of a weight loss regime is to train yourself mainly to realise that you don't need to eat in bulk. If you struggle through the "boot camp" of learning correct serving sizes, then, if you settle down with those sizes, and have patience, then over time the weight will come off, probably at the same rate that it went on. You only get success by playing the long game.

 

Using  "weight loss" drugs will get the weight off quickly, but most of that weight initially is water (the Warnie diet) and will come back on at the first drink. It seems that the best accelerant for weight loss is movement. It appears that light exercise, mainly simply walking, is much better for the body as a whole that stringent workouts. Studies seem to indicate that walking is also a great way to slow the degeneration of knee joints which comes naturally with the years, but is worsened by requiring the knees to handle the extra loads created by the extra body weight. 

 

While exercise is an important element in a weight-loss regime, you have to also consider what it does to the skeleton in those early stages when the weight is still high. 

[onetrack]

I'm still around 75kgs and still in good shape, body-wise. I've always been careful about what I eat. A lot of people might call me a "picky eater", but I think it pays in the long run.

I've always avoided eating heavy, tallow-like fats. I cut most of the fat off any meat I eat (and I love red meat). I've never eaten much pork and I only eat an occasional bit of bacon today.

Once again, I prefer lean bacon, not the American-style "streaky" bacon, which is more fat than anything else. 

 

I believe if you have a fat (or oil) that doesn't dissolve rapidly in warm water, then the body is going to have problems processing it. It will take longer, and the body will not utilise it for energy production, but decide that it needs to be stored in the fat cells.

Vast amounts of processed and fast foods are manufactured using heavy tallow-type fats that we often wouldn't even eat if offered up in their original form. All animal carcasses are fat-trimmed to make the product more presentable and more tasty.

 

But the "lean trimmings" as they are called, run into hundreds of thousands of tonnes, even millions of tonnes in places such as America - and believe it or not, they're no longer discarded and regarded as a money maker, and re-processed to make manufactured/highly processed food. There is actually a futures market in lean trimmings, such is the volume of them.

 

Lean trimmings are ground to a paste, the so-called "pink slime", and often treated with industrial chemicals ("hydrogenated"), chemical additives added ("to improve flavour" - i.e. - make the product more addictive).

This product is then added to many processed foods, primarily hamburger patties, and a hundred other highly processed foods. In this manner, heavy tallow-type fats (and chemicals) are consumed by food buyers without any knowledge or understanding of what went into their food.

 

So many Americans are grossly obese due to their addiction to these heavy tallow-type fats, particularly pork fat, and they consume vast amounts of them in their poor diets.

Add in the dozens of addictive industrial chemicals added to processed foods, and you can soon why Western nations suffer such an obesity problem.

Go back 100 years, where highly processed foods were minimal, and look at the people in photos and films of that era, and you'll see a lot less obese people.

[facthunter]

Avoid trans fats, salt and sugar (and alcohol if you're serious).  Eat natural unprocessed foods. NO fizzy  SUGARY drinks.   Don't overcook things or keep them for too long. Keep nuts etc in the fridge. Nev

[nomadpete]

4 hours ago, Bruce Tuncks said:

Nomad, your posting is hard to disagree with, but why did you say "avoid weight-loss drugs"

Because

 

1. Any fast weight loss is quickly waisted (back on) as soon as you stop the magic pills. Unless you also significantly change your eating habits.

 

2. As with every medical intervention the medication can cause problems to a minority of folk. So, it is not suitable for EVERY body.

 

 

[nomadpete]

Totally off topic, but related to human consumption of trash...

Has anyone been watching the TV show about the presence of microplastics in human cells (& other animals)?

 

They even found bits of plastic in brain cells!

 

It looks like it is the new pandemic.

 

SBS On Demand:

"Plastic People- The hidden problem of microplastics"

[old man emu]

1 hour ago, onetrack said:

Go back 100 years, where highly processed foods were minimal, and look at the people in photos and films of that era

You don't have to go back that far. This is a picture from a World Series game played in Mildura in 1977. Look at all teh thin bodies.

[Bruce Tuncks]

Thanks, Nomad. I fear you are correct, but I would still like to just take a pill or 2 to lose weight. What about liposuction?

Getting back to the "near death experiences", did you ever consider the evidence of the pattern-generator they put on top of the operating-theater lights. Operating theaters are a popular place to die, and near-death people often told how they could look down and watch the event of their death.

This was taken by religious people as "proof " in the details of their religion.  But NOT ONE of these told of the  pattern correctly. I take this as proof that the "near death" religious experience is a bunch of nonsense.

Obviously, the brain in its death -throes can come up with lots of stuff.

[Bruce Tuncks]

Here's one for OME, I think... Why were the arabs so clever in the days of al-kaswami but so silly these days? Apparently there are "schools" where the only book allowed is the koran.

[facthunter]

 And you have to  KNOW it  by heart. How's that for self indoctrination? sgd A. Ninfidel. 

[old man emu]

58 minutes ago, Bruce Tuncks said:

Here's one for OME

Al-Kasani was a 12th Century jurist (legal expert). who wrote the manual. entitled Bada'i' al-Sana'i' fi Tartib al-Shara'i' (Marvellous artistry in the arrangement of the religious-legal regulations), which is one of the most important Islamic legal manuals of the Hanafi tradition. The Hanafi school or Hanafism is one of the four major schools of Islamic jurisprudence within Sunni Islam.

 

Were you thinking of Muhammad ibn Musa al-Khwarizmi who was a Persian polymath living in the 8th Century, and who produced vastly influential Arabic-language works in mathematics, astronomy, and geography? Both men were brilliant in their fields, but I sense from your question that you are referring to al-Khwarizmi, whom Westerners would be more likely to label as being "clever". 

 

It's, as Einstein said, "all Relativity". al-Khwarizmi lived in a time of the Islamic Golden Age. The Islamic Golden Age refers to a period in the history of Islam, traditionally dated from the 8th century to the 13th century, during which much of the historically Islamic world was ruled by various caliphates and science, economic development, and cultural works flourished. At the same time, Western Europe was a shambolic homeland of warring groups through which Christendom was spreading like the mycelium of a fungus and creating links. Christendom was in its missionary stage, so there was little opportunity for its evangelist to sit and ponder the Arts and Sciences.

 

So one would be correct in saying that al-Khwarizmi and his contemporaries were "clever". It wasn't until the Renaissance, from the 14th to the 17th centuries, when cultural, artistic, political, and economic rebirth in Europe took place. It was a time when the ideas and achievements of classical antiquity were revived and surpassed. 

 

Getting back to Al-Kasani, his field of expertise was in the interpretation of the laws of the Quran. Since the Quran is a theological text, the Word of Allah, the source material is considered to be fixed. Therefore, once the laws arising from the text have been settled, there is nothing further to do. One can study the laws and the interpretations, but those ancient interpretations are set in stone. Saying that Arabs are no longer clever because they live by these ancient laws and interpretations fails to separate the Spiritual from the Secular. Arabs whose field of expertise is elsewhere than in religion are as equally a clever and any other mob. For proof, just pop into your local public hospital. The cleverness of Arabs in general seems to be stifled in many countries by the power of the religious. Just as the cleverness of Western Europeans was stifled in the Middle Ages by the Church. 

[onetrack]

The Arabs have become dumber and dumber because they murder all their intellectuals with their Stone-Age interpretation of Islamic beliefs - which have become their form of Govt and rule.

There is no separation of State, Judiciary and Religion, as we in the West have developed.

 

The Islamic religion is Law, Govt, and State Rule all rolled up into one, and unelected Imams hold all the power - including the power to rule moral behaviour, and dish out death sentences for Islamic Law infringements that are regarded as only deserving custodial sentences in our Western societies.

As a result, democracy doesn't exist in Islamic Law-ruled countries. The Islamic rulers behave like rock apes in the Stone Age, and I'm surprised there's not more revolt against the Imams and their ruthless dictatorial behaviour.

 

Edited December 31, 2024 by onetrack

[Bruce Tuncks]

Thx guys. I still reckon that democracy is the only system worth fighting for, so I am certainly at odds with the islamists .

There is a story about the first Chinese ship to visit east Africa, where they heard about Europe and decided it was too primitive to even visit. Funny huh how the Europeans returned to China ( after hundreds of years ) and found the place so primitive that they ruled for many years. It was the same with the arabs. I reckon what happened can be explained by the loss of religion in Europe with the reformation.

[Bruce Tuncks]

Thanks OME, I was referring to al Khwarizmi. Sorry about my poor spelling of arabic names