GRIPES

[old man emu]

The point I was making was the total amount Australians contribute in comparison with other nations.

 

The problem is that there has to be a base level that is acceptable, just to keep things turning over. I would imagine that a big part of our CO2 emissions come from transport.

 

 

[Yenn]

Does our pollution include the coal we export. What I saw yesterday on TV implies that it does, in which case it is just a meaningless statistic.

 

 

[Bruce]

No it does not Yenn. If it did, the figure would be 3 times higher. We would be the biggest polluters on the planet, except maybe for the Saudis.

 

But note that the pollution from imported oil is , likewise, NOT attributed to the Saudis but to Australia where it is used.

 

 

[Old Koreelah]

"Would there be a better place for solar,"Australia was the very first country to ;use Solar to power a town.

 

spacesailor

I believe White Cliffs north of Broken Hill was the place. After a few years the solar station needed an upgrade, which the electricity Minister vetoed. Instead, he ordered the construction of an expensive power line to link the little community to the grid. Transmission losses were huge, probably making the electricity more expensive than solar. That untalented politician was eventually packed off to the lucrative job as High Commissioner in London.

 

If we ever get a list of the most incompetent and costly politicians, he'd be right up there.

 

 

[Bruce]

There was a place in the Daintree area where they made a subdivision all off-grid systems to avoid cutting a swathe of rainforest to run power in.

 

What they proved is that "normal" families can't operate off-grid systems.

 

I can believe that, as the one guy I know who lives off-grid had his woman leave years ago.

 

 

[facthunter]

Don't let that get out . It's another unfair advantage of going solar. You usually have to give her all your money. It's not proof positive though. He might have had other problems even if he had owned a Coal mine..

 

Solar can be used to make hydrogen and ammonia cheaply., fuels of the future and can run steel and copper and aluminium refineries. Hydrogen can reduce iron oxide same as carbon does.. it's ALL possible.. Nev

 

 

[old man emu]

Who was the boofhead who decided that the thickness of dressed pine timber should be 19, 35, or 45 mm? Have you ever tried to measure to the half millimetre on a piece of wood? Would it have hurt to go one up or one down to an even number?

 

 

[Marty_d]

Who was the boofhead who decided that the thickness of dressed pine timber should be 19, 35, or 45 mm? Have you ever tried to measure to the half millimetre on a piece of wood? Would it have hurt to go one up or one down to an even number?

It's easier with glasses, as I've recently discovered.

 

 

[Phil Perry]

General Carpenters, when I was at school, measured and cut to a tolerance of 1/8th Inch or.125 Inch. . .roughly 3mm. . This appeared to work throughout the house consttruction industry,. . bear in mind that a saw blade was 3mm thick. . window and door frames required some more accuracy of course. . but this was understood.

 

Then, we Engineers were expected to work to tolerances of a Tenth of a Thou. . .doesn't seem fair does it ? ?

 

 

[Phil Perry]

It's easier with glasses, as I've recently discovered.

t certainly IS mate,. . I was Sick to death of drinking from cans and getting dribbles down my shirt fronts. . .. . . .

 

 

[Bruce]

OME, the 19mm is the old 3/4". But on this logic, 50mm is 2". I reckon the 45mm is cheapskated 2" stuff.

 

Yep, a 4 by 2 is 100 by 50mm but as you say it is cut smaller than this.

 

Well at least table saws and thicknessers are cheaper now. I have a $200 table saw and it rips long timbers real good. It also cuts firewood, even though the instructions say not to.

 

 

[old man emu]

It's not the difficulty of measuring the length of a piece of wood, it's the difficulty of measuring the middle of the thickness of the wood when making doweled butt joints.

 

 

[spacesailor]

You cut (saw) the wood then plane it to the size required.

 

Then Sand to the "work to tolerances of a Tenth of a Thou. " tolerance required. Easy

 

spacesailor

 

 

[Yenn]

The size of wood as bought from the sawmill was the size of timber it was before sawing it off. A 4*2 was cut from a log with a 1/8" blade which resulted in a 3 and 7/8' by 1 and 7/8" piece of timber.

 

This must have been set out by the English, in the same way as they measure some tubes by ID and some by OD and also rope was always measured by circumference

 

 

[old man emu]

The halfway point of the 4" (3-7/8) side of a 4x2 is 1-15/16" which can be measured without resorting to half divisions. Likewise the halfway point of the 2" (1-7/8") side is 15/16". Again, easy to measure. 20/20 vision or not, you try marking at 0.5mm.

 

 

[spacesailor]

It's all mute now , in the French system, it's even smaller than the old measurements.

 

spacesailor

 

 

[red750]

mute -

 

adjective

 

1. 1.
   refraining from speech or temporarily speechless.
   "Harry sat mute, his cheeks burning resentfully"
    
    
   

 

 

verb

 

1. 1.
   deaden, muffle, or soften the sound of.
   "her footsteps were muted by the thick carpet"
   synonyms:deaden, muffle, mask, dull, dampen, damp down, soften, quieten, silence;
   having little or no practical relevance, typically because the subject is too uncertain to allow a decision.
    
   

 

 

moot -

 

having little or no practical relevance, typically because the subject is too uncertain to allow a decision.

 

"the whole matter is becoming increasingly moot"

 

 

[spacesailor]

It's all Moot now ,

 

Just doesn't look right.

 

spacesailor

 

 

[Yenn]

Thats a moot point.

 

 

[facthunter]

Shows how a "phonetic is good enough" won't do the job. The meaning is in the spelling which conveys the roots of the Language. Nev

 

 

[spacesailor]

NEW GRIPE.

 

"‘It snuck up on us’: Scientists stunned by ‘city-killer’ asteroid that just missed Earth"

 

(‘It snuck up on us’: Scientists stunned by ‘city-killer’ asteroid that just missed Earth )

 

They Don't want us poor mortals to know.

 

So we leave our look in Their banks.

 

AND work till the End.

 

spacesailor

 

 

[octave]

NEW GRIPE."‘It snuck up on us’: Scientists stunned by ‘city-killer’ asteroid that just missed Earth"

 

(‘It snuck up on us’: Scientists stunned by ‘city-killer’ asteroid that just missed Earth )

 

They Don't want us poor mortals to know.

 

So we leave our look in Their banks.

 

AND work till the End.

 

spacesailor

Not really a conspiracy not to tell anyone but a failure to detect it earlier. This asteroid was approximately 100 metres in diameter and 70 000km away. Detection can only be as good as the resources put towards the task.

 

City-killer and just missed the Earth are the usual lame tabloid headlines. For more scientific and less sensational news -

 

A Giant Asteroid Just Skimmed Past Earth, And We Barely Noticed in Time

 

 

[Marty_d]

Refer to Billy-Bob Thornton's line in Armageddon.

 

 

[Bruce]

Ive got a new gripe, caused by the paper saying how there is a great rural GP shortage.

 

Entirely unnecessary, say I.

 

Short-term solution... make Medibank (or whatever the current designation is ) provider numbers geographically based AND provide some reasonable protections for country GP's from the legal system.

 

Long-term solution... remove the restrictions on universities offering medical school places.

 

The longer term solution would be the best, of course, but it would take more than one government term of office to yield results.

 

Years ago, I know first hand that the university of Adelaide had to turn down dozens of straight "A" students from medicine every year at the Commonwealth government's orders.

 

 

[spacesailor]

"Years ago, I know first hand that the university of Adelaide had to turn down dozens of straight "A" students from medicine every year at the Commonwealth government's orders."

 

AND there you have it .

 

PUT ALL politicians Out To Grass On the Farm.

 

The new cheap labour.

 

Bad enough with all those bureaucrats. with-out the Pollies stuffing up. what they know F-all about.

 

spacesailor