GRIPES

[Litespeed]

Beware what you wish for.

 

Making the compact we have as a society to provide social security dependant on how the recipient lives or appears or where they live is dangerous. Even more so when we target measures on the basis of race.

 

That is a form of social Darwinism and only leads down a very dark path.

 

 

[facthunter]

A good % of drug users pinch money from their family, for their habit. Nev

 

 

[spacesailor]

"And if 80% of their money was paid with a credit card not suitable for buying drugs, a lot of problems would go away. "

 

It was tried on people in Blacktown, who did big shops then sold what was in their shopping trolley.

 

I was offered a trolley for $50, & there must have been over a $100 of groceries with not one iten that was perishable.

 

spacesailor

 

 

[old man emu]

"And if 80% of their money was paid with a credit card not suitable for buying drugs, a lot of problems would go away. "It was tried on people in Blacktown, who did big shops then sold what was in their shopping trolley.

 

I was offered a trolley for $50, & there must have been over a $100 of groceries with not one iten that was perishable.

 

spacesailor

Just goes to show, "Where's there's an ill, there's a way".

 

 

[Bruce]

They need to do the cashless card with some smarts of course. Loading your trolley with trade goods should trigger some response. Any of us here could come up with some simple rules to minimize this, and the computers would easily implement the rules.

 

Once in Coober Pedy, we were unable to buy more than one bottle of wine. I asked the shop worker if the scheme was succeeding and he said 70%. There certainly were fewer people hanging around the grog-shop, and they looked cleaner too.

 

In the meantime, back in Adelaide, I reckon that , as taxpayers, we are the true buyers of most illegal drugs and gambling products.

 

Mind you, an effective card is asking for smarts from the same bureaucracy that gave us the baby bonus, which meant that aboriginal girls were forced to have babies they didn't want.

 

Gangs of unwanted youths are now hunter-gathering in the suburbs of Alice Springs, born because the family wanted the grog that the daughter's baby bonus funded.

 

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[facthunter]

The baby bonus was a Peter Costello brain-fart. Nev

 

 

[Bruce]

Sure was, Nev, but the details of its implementation were public service.

 

I saw Peter Costello being amazed at the idea that anyone would have a kid just for the baby bonus. You rich, stupid, coddled idiot, I remember thinking.

 

 

[Old Koreelah]

The baby bonus was a Peter Costello brain-fart. Nev

Just one of many short-sighted decisions by LNP governments.

 

Of all the lies we must endure, one of the most insidious is that the coalition is the best manager of our economy.

 

Wrong!

 

I could fill a book with the stupid, short-sighted, even corrupt decisions made by LNP governments ; as a result of which, our country is largely foreign-controlled and most of the benefits of our economy go overseas.

 

 

[red750]

It doesn't matter what action is taken to assist people or address a problem, there is always plenty of a..holes too willing to take advantage of it for the wrong purposes.If these types put the same effort into doing something positive as they do into their nefarious activities, the world could be a much better place.

 

 

[spacesailor]

"Once in Coober Pedy, we were unable to buy more than one bottle of wine. I asked the shop worker if the scheme was succeeding and he said 70%. There certainly were fewer people hanging around the grog-shop, and they looked cleaner too. "

 

Once or twice in Katherine NT, My wife & I walked passed the Bottle-shop & was asked to buy a headache for the locals. later was told to leave Pocket's inside-out to show them (you know who) we had no money,

 

Returning On the other -side of the street we witnessed a car having Empty's thrown at it for Not buying the grog Demanded.

 

spacesailor

 

 

[Old Koreelah]

It doesn't matter what action is taken to assist people or address a problem, there is always plenty of a..holes too willing to take advantage of it for the wrong purposes.If these types put the same effort into doing something positive as they do into their nefarious activities, the world could be a much better place.

Too plurry right Red! Trouble is, the law-enforcement system is focussed almost totally on the criminals and blood-suckers who are most visible in robbing society.

 

The parasites further up the food chain, who suck the most from the system, have influence over politicians, so they rarely if ever get caught.

 

 

[spacesailor]

BUT !.

 

Why should Normal people have to end up with a "guilt-conscience" for Not buying down & outs shopping trolly.

 

spacesailor

 

 

[octave]

BUT !.Why should Normal people have to end up with a "guilt-conscience" for Not buying down & outs shopping trolly.

 

spacesailor

A "guilty conscience"?. The only person who can give you a guilty conscience is you. If I wanted to help that person I would do it in a way that was actually useful and if I chose not too I am secure enough not to feel guilty.

 

 

[spacesailor]

Yes

 

BUT

 

$50 was not a large amount to give someone in need.

 

BUT

 

I Don't drink, smoke, gamble or take drugs.

 

SO

 

None for them either.

 

New thing for me ,

 

No more buying/ giving cigarettes, as the thought of family/friends getting cancer, I Dont want on my conscience.

 

spacesailor

 

 

[Old Koreelah]

Being a social clutz I've discovered that giving help to really deserving, needy people is always harder than it should be. Their pride has probably prevented them seeking help so far and the last thing you want to do is cause offence.

 

That applies to the elderly lady ahead of you at the checkout who doesn't quite have enough to cover her purchase. She would be mortified to accept a few bob to get the line moving again.

 

It also applies to the recently-retrenched friend who can't afford groceries.

 

 

[Bruce]

good onyer old K.

 

Here's my advice... Don't humiliate the old lady at the checkout. She can remove a few items and get through.

 

As with your old mate. But in his case, I would come around with whatever additions to his larder you could pass off. Like beer...

 

I like how you are sensitive to their pride.

 

 

[Bruce]

I was there (qld) a few weeks ago and I found that the Sunshine coast is a big lie.. it needs to be renamed the "overcast coast".

 

 

[willedoo]

I was there (qld) a few weeks ago and I found that the Sunshine coast is a big lie.. it needs to be renamed the "overcast coast".

"overcrowded coast" is a more accurate description.

 

 

[facthunter]

It was good in the 60's. Now it's developed (whatever that means.) Brisbaneites I've known for 50 years now say they can't stand the humidity in summer on the coast . I can't either, when I go there. but I've never liked the heat. (with humidity). Buildings with airconditioning running make it worse.(outside) Nev

 

 

[willedoo]

The humidity and heat in summer is getting very unpleasant. It's got to the point where it's unliveable unless you install aircon and burn heaps of electricity. The heat and the overcrowding are the two main reasons I'm selling up after 47 years on and off living on the Sunshine Coast.

 

Different demographics with the population growth as well. Compared to the old time residents, these people are like aliens. I guess that will always happen when you flood a rural area with city people.

 

 

[Bruce]

I was amazed to see built-up from Tweed Heads to Noosa and inland past Toowoomba. The sparsest is hobby farms, except for bits of the Great Divide. Then there are great areas of dense suburbs.

 

And I was shocked at the 4,500 ft limitation from abeam Warwick to Watt's Bridge. Nobody using the airspace above me, just a prohibition from traversing in safety.

 

 

[Yenn]

there is a good reason it is called the Sunshine Coast. The powers that be said " What do we need to make this area acceptable to tourists?" Answer Sunshine. So that's what they decided to call it. Just the usual con trick. My son lives there and he bemoans the fact that his grass is waterlogged and he can't get the mower on it. While I am cleaning out my near empty dam, but at least the shags, egrets and spoonbills are getting a feast

 

 

[red750]

The most played song on the radio here in Vic lately is Dragon - "It;s been rain--ing, for so long....". My sister-in-law was on the phone this morning. Lives in Mermaid Beach, and just back from overseas. Said she has had to be out watering the garden because her plants are all dying.

 

 

[facthunter]

Yes My paddock is abut as muddy as it's been for many years.. A lot of Australia would like my problem. Shhesh NSW is doing it tough inland. Nev

 

 

[spacesailor]

I dragged my hose out & connected it to the big Rain-water tnk, to water the front lawn.

 

After that was left on to use a few hundred litres of water, I went & bought a Filter-jug that I filled from a clean Rain-water tank, & put it in the fridge for the Taste test. LoL

 

Tomorrow will be the drink it or throw it on the plants day test.

 

All my down-spouts have rain-water divert'rs on them. (from Bunnings)

 

spacesailor