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Has anyone else wondered about our single use plastic bag ban, we now pay for a paper bag that can only hold a pack of crisps or it tears open, when they get home they are filled with rubbish and tossed, because they barely make the one trip. The weight of the bags must have increased tenfold( like per 1000 etc), so shipping them around the globe must cost a small fortune  (books are heavy enough to move in a box) At least those grey woolworth's plastic bags went in a holder or another bag to be reused as rubbish bags, carrying stuff around to places, We didnt buy garbage bags for years, they stacked in the wheelie bin easy and went out every day so no odours. Now the ones we get tear before you get them out of the bin, so bloody hopeless.

Paper production is fairly labour and process intensive and if you believe the lefties, Toxic, I remember all the paper mills in Tassie's north closing and leaving a lot of people out of work.

And to top it off, everything like the meat trays mentioned above are single use due to what the contents are-raw meat, chicken etc.

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NOT JUST A WASTE.

BUT

Now they ( Germany in particular  ) are cutting down "[ old growth forests " for ' paper-bag ' production .

I rejoiced when those rubbishy brown paper bags were fazed-out . No more groceries falling out of the ' shopping bag ' .

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Ten years ago my wife and I were in England and living in self-catering places, which meant that we had to cook for ourselves. So we visited the several grocery stores  - ASDA, TESCO, M&S and Aldi. The purse wouldn't open wide enough for us to visit Waitrose. Anyway, we bought woven plastic carry bags and actually brought more of them home than other souvenirs. I'm still using them and can fit an easy 15 kgs into them without splitting the bottom. 

 

I know that they are made of woven "plastic", but they have lasted so well even with the regular use they have had over the years. I think the only bag that has failed is the one whose cloth handle tore off.

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The answer is hemp fibre, it has so many uses, it's not funny. Hemp is resistant to UV light, mould and mildew, and a woven Hemp bag would outlast OME's woven plastic bags twice over - and then still be biodegradable.

 

And if you were feeling really depressed about all the plastic in our environment, you could sit down and smoke it, to make yourself feel better! :classic_biggrin:

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It is ironic that one of the reasons the British wanted to establish a colony in Australia was to grow the hemp plant, Cannabis sativa, whose fibres could be used to make the ropes for British naval vessels. C. sativa is not the party cannabis, that is the species C. indica. Not being good botanists, the British brought seeds of C.indica which is no good for ropemaking.

 

A recently there has been interest in the  species, C. ruderalis which is among the lowest THC producing biotypes of Cannabis and has been used  in Russian and Mongolian folk medicine, especially for uses in treating depression. The typically higher concentration of cannabidiol makes ruderalis plants valuable for the treatment of anxiety or epilepsy. C. ruderalis is being used for the treatment of cancer, sclerosis, and loss of appetite.

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We have had shops having to charge for plastic bags for years. They don't sell the cheap flimsy stuff, but fairlt strong bags, and if one breaks, the bigger supermarkets say bring it back and it will be replaced with a new one free. The idea is to reuse the bags. Although, I do have a decent collection of them, now that they are £1, I make sure I reuse them. They are very strong and can carry quite a lot. Yes, hemp would be better.. The number of new bags reported has dropped from 2.2bn/year to around 560m.. that is a decent drop.

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Back onto the ever-shrinking product sizes subject - we now apparently have a new term - "Shrinkflation" - where you pay more for a smaller or lighter amount of product you're purchasing.

 

I don't know how the ABS operatives figure out how we're getting rorted, just from examining retail data - they must have better systems than me, because I often go through items I've bought when I get home, and compared them to previous buys - and only then found out how I've been rorted on size or weight. This, despite carefully examining items in the shops as I purchased them.

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-12-02/shrinkflation-is-happening-how-it-works/103176208

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False advertising:

Woolworths brand tuna in springwater comes in a 425 gm can. Today it is priced at $3.50 per can, with a stated price of $8.24 per kilo. That's the way those number work out.

 

However. If you drain the springwater from the tuna and weigh the tuna itself, you'll find that you have approximately 250 gms of fish. That makes the per kilo price $14.00.

 

Do we accept the falsehood, or should we demand that we pay $2.12 for that can and get the water for free?

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