OH Bollox. Another ( nothing to do with Muslims ) attack on London Bridge.

[Phil Perry]

Oh dearie dear,. . .

 

Another attack, and NO link to post yet.

 

I'll repost when I get some decent data. My eldest Daughter is down there in Londinistan, and I have checked that she is fine, and safe, but there are a lot of people who are not. See your local news feeds.

 

Feeling much better , for my own kid,. . .but what about everyone else. . .?

 

New Man hunt launched for three terrorists as men with '12in hunting knives stab pedestrians' after mowing down up to 20 people with a white van amid reports of explosions in third attack in ten weeks

 

 

 

 

 

[Jerry_Atrick]

Yes, another terrible attack - not far from where I work and I know the Barrow Boy & Banker reasonably well.. Heartfelt condolences to those who have lost and hoping those that haven't fallen pull through...

 

Tuesday (next day in London) will not quite be the same...

 

 

[Phil Perry]

Yes, another terrible attack - not far from where I work and I know the Barrow Boy & Banker reasonably well.. Heartfelt condolences to those who have lost and hoping those that haven't fallen pull through...

Tuesday (next day in London) will not quite be the same...

Glad you are still kicking Jerry. I mean this in genuine terms and it isn't intended to be cynical.

 

These cheap 'N' easy 'suicide by Cop' copycat murders are now becoming so tediously predictable,. . Same old worn out phrases and statements from the Pollies and the media. . . .let's have one minute silences at football games and setup some tea lights. . . . 21 people still critically ill in hospital. . . .Six cops fired 48 bullets to stop three men, though regrettably, not before one of the atrocious scumbags had stabbed a girl FIFTEEN TIMES. . .. One of the projectiles hit an innocent person. . . . I have no criticism of the police here, it doesn't matter how well you are trained, . . .a high stress situation can produce this kind of reaction and we do not know if the police have been told privately to 'Shoot to Kill'. . .the IPCC will be holding an enquiry as to whether their response was excessive. . . . . . what a load of old Bullcrap. . . .

 

I am most impressed that, from the time they were informend, to the sound of the first shot was a mere EIGHT MINUTES. they are, it seems, getting very good at this.. . .Now let's watch the lefty bedwetters on soshul meeja say that they 'Over - reacted'. . . .again, very predictable. ..

 

Close friends in London, half the partnership is a Cop. Says 'I do NOT wish to be armed'. . . saying that she prefers the old 'Dixon of Dock Green' coppers who never went out 'Tooled up' . But the stution now is more than likely going to cause Amber Rudd to insist on firearms training for all police officers since they are now beginning to accept that this situation is not going to improve, that it will, more than likely get worse, as our little island gets more and more Non- Vetted immigrants friom countries who subscribe to to a certain fatalist medieval cult. Some of them, already trained and seasoned ex-jihadists.

 

Interesting times ahead. Couldn't you get a transfer to somewhere a little more 'Safe'. .. like,. . er,. . .Frankston, or Whyalla. . . ?

 

 

[Phil Perry]

What matters is never achieved by mass movements. Those poor sheep down there in that arena - well, they will always be sheep, and someone has to look after them. 'Consciousness raising' aka conscientizacao. . . is a neo-marxist / Liberation Theology concept from South America of the 60's, akin to the 'woke' notion. And it is, in the end, just as footling if we expect most people to become 'woke'. . . . .

 

We can worry about who to vote for, but that isn't what will matter in the end. Some social media blog places, show that one of those groups of people, that is atypical. It comprises a small, VERY small minority of our population, and the people there are (mostly) typical only of those minorities that always do achieve things for everyone, but mostly unacknowledged and marginalised.

 

And that may be for the best. All those politicians, all that media, all that stupid consensus - it seems pointless to spend all, or any, of my energy in pushing boulders up a hill.

 

We may argue among ourselves, but there is enough agreement (1) that nothing effective appears to be being done to protect us and our nation, and (2) there are some effective measures that could be taken. There must be a more productive way to get things done, other than continuing to wish in vain that we could get a large number of our citizens to actively see things the same way, and to care enough to make some effort in the matter.

 

I don't know what the answer to this is, but I am not going to waste further energy in wishing for the moon, as far as public support is concerned. . . . .

 

 

[old man emu]

I'm amazed at the silence of the extreme right wing "Keep Britain White" types. I would have thought that they would have been into the fray, boots and all.

 

And how did London end up with Khan as Lord Mayor after Boris? Doesn't the Lord Mayor of London have to swear allegiance to the Crown, who is the head of the Church in England, a Christian entity? Bit hard for a good follower of the Prophet to do that.

 

OME

 

 

[Yenn]

It could be that someone will wake up some time soon. All these atrocities appear to be coming from the mosques. While I believe that only a small proportion of the muslims are bad, it seems to me that the only way to stop them is to get the bad ones under control with the help of the moderate muslims. You need to get the moderates to force the baddies out of their mosques or to inform on them. I cannot believe that the moderate muslims don't know who is at the root of the problem. If they can't or won't help, then close down the mosques and declare the religion illegal.

 

As for the Lord mayor being a muslim, what does it matter if he does his job well?

 

 

[Marty_d]

. . .Now let's watch the lefty bedwetters on soshul meeja say that they 'Over - reacted'. . . .again

As your local lefty bedwetter (although I haven't done that since I was a kid, even with a skin full) I don't think they overreacted at all. Congratulations to the police for quickly and effectively putting these animals down before more lives were lost.

 

I only have a problem with police using their weapons unnecessarily where the suspect is unarmed, for instance the disabled guy in the US recently who was shot in the butt when lying face down on the ground.

 

You need to get the moderates to force the baddies out of their mosques or to inform on them. I cannot believe that the moderate muslims don't know who is at the root of the problem. If they can't or won't help, then close down the mosques and declare the religion illegal.

In many cases, including one of the perpetrators of this atrocity, they actually were reported on. I agree that preachers of hate should be shut down, and it's interesting that Theresa May talked about working with internet companies to deprive IS of their online oxygen. But I don't think it's the mosques that are the main problem, and I don't necessarily agree that your everyday nominal or even reasonably religious moslem would have any idea who's being radicalised. I think it's more your spotty youths in their bedrooms, unfortunately devouring IS propaganda instead of porn like any normal kid, who's likely to fall for their BS.

 

As for the Lord mayor being a muslim, what does it matter if he does his job well?

Couldn't agree more.

 

 

[Jerry_Atrick]

@Phil Perry - many thanks for your sentiments. Fortunately, Somerset is my main abode and I travel to London 3 - 4 times a week, usually at unsociable hours... Not looking forward to tomorrow's trek.

 

House hopefully goes on the market this week and I have very recently been pondering whether to move up the road of move back to Aus..

 

 

[Phil Perry]

I'm amazed at the silence of the extreme right wing "Keep Britain White" types. I would have thought that they would have been into the fray, boots and all.

And how did London end up with Khan as Lord Mayor after Boris? Doesn't the Lord Mayor of London have to swear allegiance to the Crown, who is the head of the Church in England, a Christian entity? Bit hard for a good follower of the Prophet to do that.

 

OME

Apparently, since he is a Muslim, he was allowed to swear the oath of allegiance using a copy of the Qu'ran.

 

Sounds reasonable in the circumstances. HM didn't object evidently. There is a first time for everything.

 

 

[storchy neil]

PC is totally out of control the do gooders need shipping back to where to wear the trouble started

 

looks like w have a problem hear in Melbourne same sort of senerio neil

 

 

[facthunter]

Copycat and how to get famous the easy way so the chick down the street will hang your picture on the wall when you are a dead martyr so called when you are just a blood thirsty nasty murderer of innocent people and a rotten coward. The Glorious death has been around for a while. Appeals to those with an axe to grind and demons in their heads. What I found difficult is the denial of the concept off democracy as a "system". OF course the West has trashed it by corruption of the process in some countries (most), and some pretty questionable lifestyle examples . Nev

 

 

[old man emu]

C What I found difficult is the denial of the concept off democracy as a "system". OF course the West has trashed it by corruption of the process in some countries (most), and some pretty questionable lifestyle examples . Nev

I think that it is an fact accepted by the great unwashed masses that their "leaders" are only in it for themselves, and any benefits to the masses of the leaders' activities is a windfall. Having accepted that fact, the masses are able to almost ignore what the leaders are doing and get on with the battle for survival for themselves and their immediate families.

 

It is interesting that the focus of archaeology seems to have shifted from a study of rulers and their kin to the lives of Sid the swineherd and Percy ploughman. Much more interesting, in my opinion, because it is easier to relate to Sid and Percy than it is to Prince Charming.

 

OME