Jeeze the bloody Tories ( UK Conservatives ) make me puke. . .

[Phil Perry]

The reason I despise the Tories so much as a free thinker is that generally you know what what manner of ordure and fragrance you're going to get when you misguidedly vote for a party.

 

Forget the Greens, just Pol Pot in Wellies and dirty parkas.

 

The Socialists, from Attlee (sold British Jet engines to the Soviets just in time for the Korean War) to Blair (War criminal with a messiah complex) and Brown (unfit to hold any office whatsoever), you just know what the socialists are capable of.

 

The Liberal Democrats, a truly nasty bunch of sociopaths that will do anything to get their hands on the levers of power.

 

But the Tories are in a league of their own. They pretend to uphold justice and the rule of law, yet have set up a police state where the wrong thought can get your life ruined. The allow sharia courts to operate with impunity. They waste our money financing terrorist organisations and corrupt regimes that would make Stalin blush.

 

They have systematically destroyed our ability to defend ourselves and made our once lauded and very efficient Armed Forces a laughing stock in a way that the socialists would never have dared to do.

 

There is a special circle of hell reserved for today's Tories and their enablers.

 

Piano wire and numerous lamp posts are required to rid us of this useless trash. . . .

 

 

[Phil Perry]

They are all the same I feel mate. . .they all have their noses in the trough somewhere. The Largest trough at the present time being that of the EU. which is why they're fighting like rats in a sack to keep us tied to that disgustingly crooked entity. . .being promised massive pensions and other unknown financial inducements.. . . .nowadays, most of them are not even trying to disguise their bias. . .it's blatant. I'm going long on Piano wire futures. . . .

 

 

[old man emu]

At least our other white Party, the Nationals, have taken up the mantra of "Populate or Perish!". Their new catch-cry is "Stuff a Staffer!"

 

As a Madam from Fyshwick was heard to say, "I never met a politician I didn't lick."

 

 

[old man emu]

Aw bugger it. Bloody auto-correct. I thought I typed "like".

 

 

[facthunter]

Sorry Red It's not even in the same league. She wasn't employed by Bill. That and the taxpayer funded special treatment are the issues which make Boney different. Nev

 

 

[old man emu]

The behaviour of those persons in leadership positions is strongly influenced by normal Primate dominance behaviour.

 

 

In fact, all animals have an inkling of dominance behaviour in order to breed. It is just that we humans have invented a myriad of things other than sex which we struggle to dominate other members of our group. You don't think that the faithfully married or celibate politicians are working towards their goals in areas that don't involved in getting laid?

 

I wonder if the animal need to become dominant in a group so that one can breed more is the reason that females have such difficulty in becoming leaders of mixed gender groups.

 

 

[facthunter]

Most of this was more critical when creatures had minimum sized brains. A brain takes a lot of energy to run and makes it harder too survive when food is scarce. Nev

 

 

[nomadpete]

When yory snout's in the trough, it's no longer about food. All that's left to fight over is sex. Besides, how many of our esteemed pollies waste energy on brain usage?

 

 

[Old Koreelah]

This is not about politicians bonking their staffers. It's about their girlfriends getting highly-paid government jobs that have not been advertised.

 

It's also about exposing colossal hypocrisy.

 

Running a dirty election campaign -hinting at non-existent sins in an opponent while hiding their own (worse) indiscretions.

 

Accepting freebies from businesses who benefit from their ministerial decisions.

 

 

[Marty_d]

I personally don't give a toss who politicians shag. Barmy's decision to sleep with someone else and ruin his marriage is his affair (pardon the pun). BUT as soon as they started hiding the sausage then one of them had to stop working with the other. That's where the power imbalance becomes unfair. Which one loses their job - the media adviser, or the deputy PM? I think we all know the answer to that.

 

I'm just enjoying watching the widening rift between the Libs and Nats. Let's see how the Libs do trying to win an election without their slightly strange country cousins.

 

 

[facthunter]

Barny say's "I'm not going anywhere". The gift that keeps on giving.. Turnbull makes an unenforceable rule but has a point. The power relationship (like teacher and student) has to be addressed. Ministers have total say how their scene is administered, so abuse is likely without some scrutiny. Imagine your daughter or wife working there. Making jobs around the place for your "partner NOT, mistress, latest bit of tail. or even future wife etc is an obvious rort. It will fester and continue to catch up with them and damage the Parliament and the government. They get distracted from what they should be doing. Nev

 

 

[old man emu]

I think there are two parts to the outrage of this matter.

 

Most of us couldn't give two hoots where a politician is hiding the sausage. As the recent Gay Marriage kerfuffle showed, 64% of us aren't interested in what goes on behind bedroom doors.

 

The real anger is in the blatant disregard for governmental hiring rules. Just look at the rigmarole that one has to go through to win a basic Public Service job. The position has to be advertised in he public arena. Applicants have to submit comprehensive responses to meet Job Description criteria. Then there's the interview process. If the job entails any security or privacy matters, then there are background checks. Finally the remuneration is based on published pay scales.

 

Flipping from Minister to Minister on a 6-figure salary doesn't seem to follow these rules. I'd love to see an FOI application requesting the records of her job advertisement and recruiting process.

 

 

[facthunter]

"Who" you know, instead of what you know, unfortunately. Insider trading and mates deals all the way.Nev

 

 

[robinsm]

Nope, disagree. These pollies should be setting the moral tone for the country. They, because of their position, should be seen to be a cut above the average bed jumping prole. If they cant keep it in their pants, or behind their skirts then how can we trust that they will do the right thing by us in their governance of the country. I am one of the few that believe you act as you believe and obviously these dickless wonders believe that everything is for screwing so where does that leave us. If they want to screw around do it when they are not in a responsible leadership roll that people are meant to respect and look up to.....

 

 

[Marty_d]

Nope, disagree. These pollies should be setting the moral tone for the country. They, because of their position, should be seen to be a cut above the average bed jumping prole. If they cant keep it in their pants, or behind their skirts then how can we trust that they will do the right thing by us in their governance of the country. I am one of the few that believe you act as you believe and obviously these dickless wonders believe that everything is for screwing so where does that leave us. If they want to screw around do it when they are not in a responsible leadership roll that people are meant to respect and look up to.....

Disagree totally. Politicians have nothing to do with morals, and a person's own private life has nothing to with their ability to do the job. Barney can root as many aides as he likes, and as long as it's consensual and they derive no financial benefit from it, I don't give a rat's ass. It wasn't the blowjob that killed Bill Clinton, it was the lie about it.

 

I don't care that Barmy was tupping his media advisor, but if it turns out that she got other positions that weren't properly advertised or selected because of his influence - well that's a breach of ministerial standards and his head should roll.

 

I don't know of any male world leader whose private life would stand the kind of moral scrutiny you're talking about. Even the great JFK was a total pussy-hound, and he was a thousand times the statesman that either the US or we have today.

 

 

[facthunter]

Con sensual. I like it.. Is it a safe workplace for your wife, sister, grand daughter.? Like in schools or universities.. How to improve your grades without studying much. Just don't say NO. It's the power gradient that has to be considered. Hollywood was/is like that. If you didn't let them have their way with you, you didn't star in anything. Nev.

 

 

[robinsm]

Disagree totally. Politicians have nothing to do with morals, and a person's own private life has nothing to with their ability to do the job. Barney can root as many aides as he likes, and as long as it's consensual and they derive no financial benefit from it, I don't give a rat's ass. It wasn't the blowjob that killed Bill Clinton, it was the lie about it. I don't care that Barmy was tupping his media advisor, but if it turns out that she got other positions that weren't properly advertised or selected because of his influence - well that's a breach of ministerial standards and his head should roll.

 

I don't know of any male world leader whose private life would stand the kind of moral scrutiny you're talking about. Even the great JFK was a total pussy-hound, and he was a thousand times the statesman that either the US or we have today.

Obviously you have your opinion.

 

 

[old man emu]

Marty_d is right. Da leader gets da ladies. Always has, always will be. One might be enticed to say that a leader who doesn't put it about is not much of a leader. Too bad that we think we think our society has evolved past that.

 

 

[Old Koreelah]

Obama does not appear to fit this stereotype.

 

 

[Jerry_Atrick]

He was generally despised - if not hated - in the US.

 

As I understand, so the rumours go, it's almost frowned upon for male civic leaders in continental Europe not to have an unofficial harem in toe/tow...

 

 

[facthunter]

Those who hated Obama were straight out racist. Having a black man in the "white " house is untenable for them. America has a BIG problem looming.. Plenty don't like women being there either.( Like Australia ) Nev

 

 

[Old Koreelah]

For a century or more America has been a cultural icon for much of the world. Australia has become a close clone of the USA, even when Blind Freddy can see that importing many American ways of doing things is stupid.

 

The place is going to the dogs and and they are making their problems worse.

 

They face more critical issues than when Roosevelt was in charge- and they don't have any more Roosevelts.

 

Trump: Armed teachers could stop attacks

 

 

[old man emu]

13% of Australian homicides/manslaughters are said to be gun related ( America's gun culture in 10 charts ). I would say that most of those were related to the control of criminal empires. Unfortunately a lot of the criminal empires make pocket money by selling firearms to political radicals of their own ethnic backgrounds.

 

As always, the majority of people who own guns use them sensibly, and Australian gun owners are more likely to have long arm (rifles and shotguns) than hand guns. It would be interesting to find out the percentage of the Australian population which holds firearm licences/permits, and then break that figure down into the numbers in each State capital, and the numbers elsewhere. I know that there would be a lot of gun owners in country cities and towns, but I feel that there proximity to farm and forest lands puts them in the same category as farmers and feral animal cullers.

 

 

[Marty_d]

For a century or more America has been a cultural icon for much of the world. Australia has become a close clone of the USA, even when Blind Freddy can see that importing many American ways of doing things is stupid.The place is going to the dogs and and they are making their problems worse.

 

They face more critical issues than when Roosevelt was in charge- and they don't have any more Roosevelts.

 

Trump: Armed teachers could stop attacks

I couldn't believe it when I heard of that idea (well, considering its source, perhaps I could.) Utter stupidity. The mentally disturbed kid doesn't even have to bring his own weapon in, just grab one belonging to a teacher.

 

Of course Trump is owned by the NRA, so he's just coming up with ideas to increase gun ownership.

 

 

[facthunter]

He made a deal with the NRA and he's sticking to it. That might seem like something of merit, but the problem began when he teamed up with them in the first place. Using military assault weapons is absurd.. What possible valid reason could one conjure up to possess one.? Substitute for manliness?