eightyknots Posted August 6, 2013 Posted August 6, 2013 I am new to this thread, What has all this got to do with spelling? Quite a few people were taking a spell from the main topic :cheezy grin:and the thread was in danger of evolving into another topic altogether . [The last time this thread was On Topic was at post #143] .
eightyknots Posted August 6, 2013 Posted August 6, 2013 Some words in our language which sound the same but are spelled entirely different (even Gnarly gets a mention ): byte, bite, bight seen, scene hear, here sense, cents, scents their, there, they're feet, feat ate, eight err, heir, air wheel, weal, we'll you, ewe isle, aisle, I'll ale, ail gnu, new, knew
fly_tornado Posted August 6, 2013 Posted August 6, 2013 can someone please help fari spell allarm alarm! http://www.recreationalflying.com/threads/false-allarm-for-search-and-rescue.64886/unread
flying dog Posted August 6, 2013 Posted August 6, 2013 Ok, here goes. I have had a rant a while ago about spelling. Cost Most Post Coast Toast Roast Choose Chose Loose Lose Then there are these people who interchange your and you're. Some things people posting here should look at/into: QI - a show on the ABC. It goes into some interesting things. "When did we think the world was flat" "Spelling mistakes" "The grocers apostrophe." As bad a speller as I am, I think it is a rich language and though it has it's quirks, it is a growing language. Thinking of: Steven Fry - Planet word. Interesting series. I am having problems just now with: current currant effect affect but I sort of know some of it. muscle mussel and some other weird things. Anyway, enough from me.
Zibi Posted August 6, 2013 Posted August 6, 2013 I think I've posted this once in here already, but seems appropriate for this thread: The European Union commissioners have announced that agreement has been reached to adopt English as the preferred language for European communications, rather than German, which was the other possibility. As part of the negotiations, Her Majesty's Government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a five-year phased plan for what will be known as EuroEnglish (Euro for short). In the first year, "s" will be used instead of the soft "c." Sertainly, sivil servants will resieve this news with joy. Also, the hard "c" will be replaced with "k". Not only will this klear up konfusion, but typewriters kan have one less letter. There will be growing publik emthusiasm in the sekond year, when the troublesome "ph" will be replaced by "f". This will make words like fotograf" 20 persent shorter. In the third year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible. Governments will enkorage the removal of double letters, which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the horible mes of silent "e"s in the languag is disgrasful, and they would go. By the fourth year, peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing "th" by "z" and "w" by " v". During ze fifz year, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd from vords kontaining "ou", and similar changes vud of kors be aplid to ozer kombinations of leters. After zis fifz yer, ve vil hav a reli sensibl riten styl. Zer vil be no mor trubls or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi tu understand ech ozer. Ze drem vil finali kum tru.
geoffreywh Posted August 6, 2013 Posted August 6, 2013 It's quite easy to understand , generally, those that read, can spell. I find that a misspelled word sticks out, in a sentence, like a sore thumb. I find that it grinds on my senses. Which is a shame as I have better thing to do with my time and effort......Please try to spell well.
fly_tornado Posted August 6, 2013 Posted August 6, 2013 Can someone help FT spell Farri I didn't want to sound like I am calling him out!
coljones Posted August 7, 2013 Posted August 7, 2013 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Vowel_Shift "The printing press was introduced to England in the 1470s by William Caxton and later Richard Pynson. The adoption and use of the printing press accelerated the process of standardization of English spelling which continued into the 16th century. The standard spellings were those of Middle English pronunciation, as well as spelling conventions continued from Old English. However, the Middle English spellings were retained into Modern English while the Great Vowel Shift was taking place, resulting in some of the peculiarities of Modern English spelling in relation to vowels."
turboplanner Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 This link covers the words which children from Grade 1 to Grade 5 are expected to be able to spell correctly. It's a good example to use to decide if a short period of tuition might bring you right up to speed. There is one contributor on this site who was almost illiterate when he/she started posting, but these days is fluent in spelling and grammar (I'm not even going to HINT to ANYONE who he/she is but the result will be life changing. http://www.readingrockets.org/article/basic-spelling-vocabulary-list
Phil Perry Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Careful what you guys say about us kids :-D I agree though as most of my mates reply to me in "text-language". Even when I do understand them, I find it mildly annoying that they fail to spend a few more seconds completing words. Just like they probably think I'm an idiot for writing out whole words... Tom,. . . Both my Daughters are multiple degree graduates and still they criticise me for responding to their text messages using complete words ! cnt wn m8 . . . I think some of us just suffer from a condition best described in hip as an "Oldie Thing" I don't like to be critical in this regard, to those who are trying hard to establish a point, as this would be pedantic. My kids simply argue that abbreviated text is much quicker to frame. Since one of the girls is a trilingual karate sensei, I'll keep future opinion to myself and st abrvtn msgs.
DGL Fox Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 I don't know how you can have the wrong spelling here, the site has a spell check as you are writing your message..all you need to do is proof read your post before pressing the button....if everyone did that all you mr perfects in spelling would have nothing to complain about... David
Phil Perry Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Actually they drive on the right hand side of the road :) I'm too much of a gent to have picked him up on that . . . . . you cruel sod.
Phil Perry Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 My machine comes from America and the approved Flight Manual states that it is an airplane so that is what it is. CASA regulation requires that I comply with the approved Flight Manual. Perhaps whoever came up with the word "aer O plane" was an Irish American. . . ? ?
turboplanner Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 I don't know how you can have the wrong spelling here, the site has a spell check as you are writing your message..all you need to do is proof read your post before pressing the button....if everyone did that all you mr perfects in spelling would have nothing to complain about...David Not always. I did wrote a big tender, spell checked the lot, then got someone else to proof read it. There were still about 10 mistakes - typos mainly like "and" instead of "an", and if you use an american spell check you'll have several mistakes usually. I'm curious as to why some people have been dropping the "n" off "an" when using it before a vowell (short) I caught a cold: the a is pronounced "u" However when the next word starts with a vowel an "n" is added to smooth the sentence, yet we see: I ate a apple I boiled a egg I found a igneous rock I peeled a orange I found a umpire Read it out loud and you'll see what I mean I ate an apple etc, sounds much smoother in speech, and the reader is also able to read it more fluently.
Phil Perry Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 I hate hearing "do the math" or "math class" it was always maths when I was at school. Maybe we all become grumpy nit pickers as we get older! No, you're right, "Do the Math" is another Americanism which has surrepticiously wheedled it's way into general use via Da ( Yank ) Movies . . . . In the English Midlands, "Dun yer Sums ?" is still fairly prevalent though. . . . If some Poms had achieved their wishes,. . . "Arithmetic" could well now have been colloquialised to " Riths ". . . . rather than Maths. . . . ? Phil
Phil Perry Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 I have to admit that I'm guilty of that. And a lot of other things... I was often scolded for continuing a sentence following a comma, or semicolon with "and" which connects with the "Don't start a sentence with "And" rather well doesn't it. However, backreading some of my earlier posts ( as I am this evening ) I notice that I am guilty of this in quite a lot of examples. Tut tut. Not a capital offence, but apparently it looks messy to any grammarian ( can I invent that word please ? ) Perhaps I shall look around for a course specialising in grammaticalisationalism, if there are any hereabouts. . . Phil
Cosmick Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Language is constantly evolving, a good listen is Prof. Rolly Sussex on the 'Wireless' ABC Brisbane Thursdays 2pm (QLD time) 612 am or live streaming. For you Phil, sessions available on podcast. https://www.google.com.au/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=roly sussex
Phil Perry Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Have you ever heard,. . .whilst listening to someone explaining something or other who says. . . "THE THING IS,- IS". . . . ? why the second "IS" I wonder . . . it doesn't annoy me, but I find it curious. Maybe nobody else has noticed ! ! ! They do it on Tv news reports nearly every day here. . . .curiouser and curiouser . . . THANK YOU DAZZA . . .turned into a good thread this did M8. Phil
Phil Perry Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Not always. I did wrote a big tender, spell checked the lot, then got someone else to proof read it. There were still about 10 mistakes - typos mainly like "and" instead of "an", and if you use an american spell check you'll have several mistakes usually. I'm curious as to why some people have been dropping the "n" off "an" when using it before a vowell (short) I caught a cold: the a is pronounced "u" However when the next word starts with a vowel an "n" is added to smooth the sentence, yet we see: I ate a apple I boiled a egg I found a igneous rock I peeled a orange I found a umpire Read it out loud and you'll see what I mean I ate an apple etc, sounds much smoother in speech, and the reader is also able to read it more fluently. Fine example Turbo,. . . . now if you remove the "a" and replace it with "THE" I hope you will agree that the "Soft" form of "the" ie, "Thee" is the correct pronunciation. What is beginning to niggle me a little lately, is that narrators on various TV documentaries are using the Hard version "Thuh" which sounds glottal, as if they had their throat grabbed for half a second between words ! It just sounds so Wrong !. Saw one earlier called "World's weirdest weather" same thing all the way through the programme. The narrator was obviously a Pommie local, but insisted o the wrong "The" form throughout the show. David Attenborough doesn't do it in his wildlife films, so I wonder what's wrong with the other producers, ( Maybe Jeremy Clarkson punched them in "THE" throat . . . ) Pedants are us. . . . ( ! )
Guest Andys@coffs Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 ........ is a handown from people who couldn't or didn't care - ........ What makes you think anything has changed?? Its my personal view that if you read a post from me and its only spelling that makes you grumble then the intent of the process, one of communicating, has possibly been unsuccessful, however if you are so impassioned with the message and reply with agreement or argument then the real mission is complete...... If folk mix hanger and hangar the reality is that Im not generally left wishing I understood which word they meant becauee the message is vastly different for each spelling iteration...One is wrong...but easily understood its not a go left or go right decision point.
Phil Perry Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Language is constantly evolving, a good listen is Prof. Rolly Sussex on the 'Wireless' ABC Brisbane Thursdays 2pm (QLD time) 612 am or live streaming. For you Phil, sessions available on podcast. https://www.google.com.au/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=roly sussex Thanks for the link Mike,. . . had a quick test and it works for me. Wooftie ? new word for today apparently, oh well, no doubt I'll find out what it means later . . . "Carpe Diem" one metioned on Rolly's site, I always thought that meant "Fish for supper today" but apparently not, never Was much good at latin, "Nil Desperandum, Illegitamus Carborundum. . . ." Phil
Kununurra Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Dazza 38 not sure if it is you that is a bit slow mate but you seem to me to be the only person who gives a fark about the spelling so build a bridge mate Whilst on the subject maybe you could get a grammar check going Why would anyone worry about a spell check when we have you to look out for us ? Keep up the great trolling long live the spelling Police
Russ Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 Grumpy about spelling.....big deal, geez. I rekin we got some candidates for road rage here as well, ......lighten up lads. Go smell the roses.....or sumthin:oh yeah:
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