Don't get me wrong here, But I LIKE Donald Trump.

[willedoo]

Trump will have his mugshot taken when he’s arraigned next week at the Fulton County jail. Georgia state law prohibits arresting law enforcement agencies from posting mugshots (also known as booking photographs) onto a website, but the Georgia law allows for anyone to request a booking photograph. I bet that photo will do the rounds if he makes it to an election campaign.

[willedoo]

[facthunter]

IF she wasn't my daughter, I'd be dating her. . Somehow THAT doesn't sound right, or is it just me?  Nev 

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[onetrack]

That's a just a straight-out nasty petulant scowl, from someone who got caught red-handed.

[rgmwa]

I’m sure it was well rehearsed before he went in. It’s all about sending a message to his followers that despite his persecution he is still defiant and will get his revenge. To the rest of us it just confirms his scheming nastiness 

[old man emu]

He serves as the perfect example of why we should tread carefully in our march to a republic. Three countries that I can think of, Australia, New Zealand and Canada have politically stable governments because in each country, the system has a Head of State who is above the hurly-burly of politics. The personal political affiliation of the Head of State remains a private thing. Not so with the system in the USA. 

[facthunter]

Can't see the connection. We accept the Monarch of another  country as Part of our government. Why Tradition? For old times sake? Because We fought under it's flag for a few wars. Menzies said "Britain is at war and as a consequence WE are also at war . Britain wouldn't release Aus soldiers to defend us. It was the US that beat the enemy in our region.in WW2.  Also records now  reveal the Office of her majesty was involved in the Dismissal of the elected Whitlam Government when the Frazer Gov't BLOCKED Supply.  Nev

[Bruce Tuncks]

Yep Nev, I would have gone to the barricades at that time. But wasn't asked. I reckon silly Whitlam thought that he would win the subsequent election. Not my fault he didn't.

ANYWAY, what was wrong with the head of state being elected by a 2/3 majority of the house of reps? This would ensure that the elected person was indeed above party politics.

[facthunter]

Nothing in my view. . The US system is not optimum as it's too popularist and MONEY spent counts too much in the whole game there. Quite a few of OUR GG's are a bit Suss but overall no great damage has been done. Frazer was in to call a new Election and HE won that BUT Media influence is too strong here and disinformation is rife, Particularly in Queensland where the Murdoch influence is about  100% and IT shows.. Media will always be "OWNED" by the already powerful and well off. The "Ordinary" person is fully occupied with just existing.  Nev

[onetrack]

Fraser won in a landslide after Whitlam was booted out, and you seem to forget Whitlam was the dodgiest PM we ever had, with a bunch of crooks for ministers, and dealing with Khemlani to try and acquire dodgy loan money to keep the Govt running.

 

Whitlam spent money like a drunken sailor, gave us 17% inflation, more than trebled the size of the Australian Govt debt - and withdrew vast amounts of tax deductions for worthy development work.

 

Around here, every farmer voted for Whitlam in 1972, but every farmer voted for Fraser after Whitlam cancelled things like tax deductions for water improvements such as dams and tanks.

He was a real Commo with a hatred of wealthy farmers, even used to call his mates, "Comrade"!

 

And Whitlam was the one who told Mark Latham to "screw the political system for all you can get"! Then he lived for decades, ripping us off even more with his massive pension and huge entitlements!!

[old man emu]

4 minutes ago, onetrack said:

gave us 17% inflation,

That's true - because the previous 23 years of Conservative government hadn't spent any money improving the lot of the People.

8 minutes ago, onetrack said:

dealing with Khemlani to try and acquire dodgy loan money to keep the Govt running.

The Whitlam government was accused of attempting to borrow money from the Middle East. Minerals and Energy Minister Rex Connor wanted funds for a series of national development projects. He proposed that to finance his plans, the government should borrow US$4 billion. (See? The Whitlam government needed to do what the Conservatives should have done.)  There were unconfirmed reports that Arab financiers offered lower interest rates on governmental loans than US banks and financiers. The Middle East at the time was awash with petrodollars since the price of oil quadrupled between 1973 and 1974. However, the loan never eventuated. In May 1975, Whitlam sought to secure the loan instead through a major US investment bank. As part of the loan procedure, the bank imposed an obligation on the Australian government to cease all other loan-raising activities pertaining to this loan.

 

Playing for political points, the opposition used its majority in the Senate to block the government's budget legislation. In other words preventing the government from carrying out all those other, normal functions for which any government needs money - salaries and wages; social services etc. etc. and so forth.

 

17 minutes ago, onetrack said:

you seem to forget Whitlam was the dodgiest PM we ever had

Recent history seems to have passed that accolade onto another.

 

18 minutes ago, onetrack said:

Then he lived for decades, ripping us off even more with his massive pension and huge entitlements!!

And Fraser didn't? Nor Little Johnny?

 

If you really want to bag the Whitlam government, I suggest you as a result of your strong feelings you grab a pair of scissors and go to work on this card from your wallet.

 

[facthunter]

It was the Yanks who wished Whitlam gone like they would any slightly left leaning politician any where, Like New Zealand. The Khemlani loan was a setup to embarrass Whitlam and help Frazer Justify Withholding Supply. Something no one would be game to try these days. Frazer later resigned from the Liberal Party claiming it no longer represented the VALUES he regarded as necessary. Whitlam and Frazer later became quite good friends, surprising a few people, including me.  Nev.

[old man emu]

Parliamentary performances are simply theatrics for the masses. Every person in both chambers is tarred with the same brush. They are all of a type. There are probably a few politicians who are the sort of people others simply could not like, but outside the Chambers, I reckon they wouldn't baulk at having a drink in the Members' Bar and talking the same shit that the rest of us do with our mates.

[facthunter]

I can't agree with that. it's too general. I know some who go there with the aim of making the country better off, and some who go there for the spoils of Office and to keep the other side out.. Most of Parliament is not televised. It's only question time which takes a lot of effort to watch, unfortunately,  I have a simple test. Would I like this person to be living near me?. The average person only knows what the media wish to present someone as. Often that person is not like what you thought at all. . It's not a job I would relish as it's too easy for you to be removed by opinion  that is entirely based on Lies..  Nev

[Jerry_Atrick]

Back to Trump and his cases. Sandwiched in between all of his public misfeasance cases, and the defamation case is a fraud case for conning poeple into selling video phones... When it rains, it purs:

 

 

[willedoo]

[nomadpete]

25 minutes ago, willedoo said:

Is this a real cover?

What does this mean to the average USA punter?

[kgwilson]

No such publication as "Doing Time". I like it though.

[facthunter]

IF it ever happens, He'll SOOK like a baby Trump..  He's used to getting everything HE wants and woe betide anyone who stands in his way.. Nev

[willedoo]

[willedoo]

I'm not sure how he gets all these angles. The dude must have a 14 stage comb over manual that he follows. 'Step 8 - get a chunk of hair from the back of your head and comb it forward over your left ear. For the right ear, refer to step 12'.

 

[nomadpete]

He's looking a lot less orange in that picture. Is the bottle nearly empty?

[Jerry_Atrick]

He may be looking more orange in the not-too distant as the prison wear reflects off his skin if he is found guilty of some of those 91 offences.

 

This fella is helping hiom prepare for the ordeal of prison: