The climate change debate continues.

[spacesailor]

Perhaps the ' Airport ' if offsetting it's carbon footprint. 

spacesailor

[Marty_d]

Good spot for them.  Low to the ground, prevents buildings with possible human casualties being put on the approaches to the runways.  

[red750]

This isn't a great photo of the panels. They were at right angles to the road closer up, and trees and bushes obscured them from further down the road. I guess the line of bushes are to block sunlight reflection into the eyes of drivers approaching along the road.

 

 

[onetrack]

It's quite amazing, the number of solar panel arrays that have been installed now. The Chinese must be raking in the money with solar panel production.

 

This one at Merredin, 260kms E of Perth, occupies 462Ha of land. It produces enough power to supply 42,000 homes.

 

https://risenenergy.com.au/portfolio/merredin-solar-farm/

[facthunter]

Cheapest form of energy by far, and we won't run out of it.  Nev

[Marty_d]

Labor are now saying they'll subsidize 30% of a home battery, that will probably tip the scales for us.

[spacesailor]

They ( governments ) didn't subside " solar panels " for the poor end of the population. 

Cut off At $ 250 electricity bill .

spacesailor

[facthunter]

Because if your consumption is that small It wouldn't be worth doing. Solar is 1/4 the price I paid for it. Having more Batteries will make a big difference. Less current in the wires. ( More decentralised). Nev

[spacesailor]

Only for the wealthy. 

The lower consumption that the poorer use, the higher the grid input .

then again! The wealthy would use most of their panel output .

With their $ three figure power bill . ( or is it four figure $1,000) .

spacesailor

[onetrack]

Our power bill is still in credit, thanks to Govt handouts. We have a 6.6Kw solar system and we use all our appliances mostly during peak sunny periods, so we use all the solar power we generate. 

Exporting power to the grid is a dead loss now, they give you bugger-all for it, so it makes sense to use what you generate.

 

When the State and Federal Govts introduce battery subsidies in July, we'll probably go for a battery, and more solar panels.

[facthunter]

Me too. Then I feel less guilty about using the Air conditioner. Private enterprise could have done that and handle an entire area.  Even those who don't have them will benefit from a more stable supply at a lower cost. / Kw Hr

[Siso]

When has the price of anything gone down apart from electronics? Unfortunately the power grid is run by large international company's who number 1 object is profits. Nothing wrong with that except it is a necessity we are talking about that everybody needs. This will make it harder for the people doing it tough.

[Siso]

I feel hypocritical as I actually work for one of these.

[facthunter]

I stick to what I said..  Car tyres used to be a weeks wages for one. Now you get 12 tyres and they last longer. Solar and Batteries have BOTH become cheaper. The sun still shines as bright.  Nev

[Siso]

Its ok for those of us that can afford the batterys, its the ones that can't that are going to suffer more.

[facthunter]

THAT is NOT so. Read more. Nev

[spacesailor]

I couldn't afford the panels! . Should I bother with batteries. 

Stand alone panels are too expensive for pensioners. 

So, what price those batteries .

spacesailor

[octave]

3 minutes ago, spacesailor said:

I couldn't afford the panels! . Should I bother with batteries. 

Stand alone panels are too expensive for pensioners. 

So, what price those batteries .

spacesailor

https://gosolarquotes.com.au/free-solar-panels/pensioners-low-income-household-scheme-nsw/#:~:text=Eligible pensioners and low-income,system installed on their homes.

[Siso]

22 hours ago, facthunter said:

THAT is NOT so. Read more. Nev

How can it not be, have done a fair bit of reading and don't find it convincing. People aren't going to give the money they save from battery's to their neighbors that haven't got them

[Marty_d]

Widespread battery takeup would reduce load on the grid, so there wouldn't be the need for expensive peak gas generation, reducing power bills for people without battery too.

ABC had an article about it.

[Siso]

I go back to original comment, nothing ever gets cheaper. We apparently have "cheap" wholesale energy in SA, but it doesn't transfer to retail.

[facthunter]

You are apparently not prepared to seek facts. Libs ridiculed Batteries there but continued them when they got in,. Nev

[nomadpete]

Australia's consumer electricity is NOT the dearest in the world.

 

"When looking at OECD countries, Australia sits 15th most expensive out of 38 countries for household electricity, according to the Global Petrol Prices website."

 

https://www.aap.com.au/factcheck/experts-warn-of-problematic-power-price-comparisons/

 

Sure, we aren't the cheapest, either.

 

The cheapest is to make a plan similar to taking out a mortgage to buy a house. The mortgage is cheaper than rent when calculated over that time.

 

For power, buy solar panels and a battery, disconnect from the grid, and over the span of your mortgage, your power will have cost a fraction compared to grid electricity. Present costs are amortised in about 7 years. That's the break even point. After that, your power costs nothing.

[spacesailor]

I did look into the on lines quotes , but stopped at " provide full address " .

I get lots of ' unsolicited phone calls & mail ' now , no reason. To invite more .

But thank you . octave .

spacesailor

 

[Siso]

We will see, unfortunately